Is there a future?

[Rezeak]

I think the question is can FFXI survive 6 months it takes to release SoA.

I've stopped automatically renewing my account simply cause there isn't enough content so at the end of every month i don't play for 1-3 weeks saving me a few £.

My issues are these....

payed for 3 months (£30) then got new content that was for 15 min every 20 hours (RIP OFF!)
SE now wants to fix the game it broke in and in a quick half assed way when it should either commit to fixing it completely or just make content easier and focus on the social and fun side of the game instead.
SE wants to add small pieces of 18+ pple content when most of the game is 3-12 pple making organizing such content a huge pain.
Finally, they treat everyone one the EN forums like we played content for 10 mins half drunk and they know better (at least this is how i feel)

Just wanna say this doesn't include the community team since i know they try there best and i'm sure have to follow a strict set of rules it's the producer/devs which are annoying me.

FFXI - 2012 has felt like the year of "lets make a little content as possible so we can make money from the subscribers".

All of above is just how i feel nothing more.

While i hope for SoA i do know all it is an idea they had "why make content from just what people pay every month, when we could call new content a expansion and charge more money for it."

As for the blinker thing, it should of been done ages ago when the commuity were making topics telling SE about not some ninja nerf which hurts they paying customers in the crusade against RMT.

[Luvbunny]

I think the question is can FFXI survive 6 months it takes to release SoA.

Six months? lol I think it is more like a year minimum. They will release a content with 10% activities to do with barely any quests or story missions implemented. WoTG, which is their last expansion lasted over 6 years, where you actually able to finish the last missions and get your reward. SIX whole years to finish a mission. They really cannot operate like it is still 2004 anymore, otherwise just make the game free to play and let players buy any new add ons that they see fit. I can guarantee you that the majority will buy Abyssea, Neo Dyna, and Voidwatch only. The rest of these so called new contents will be dropped in a heartbeat and will be considered failure at launch.

[Arcon]

My friend got a 2week suspension on his account for being in these parties, At the time the GM stated that by gathering all the mobs of the zone and killing in one big blast was considered RMT activity by using the drops for gil.

Either your friend or you are lying, I suspect the latter.

And thats why i see trains of characters with names like asdfg running through towns and receiving 2-3 /tells a week from them offering me gil at amazingly low prices. Yeah really sounds dead to me.

Whether they're dead or not is not measured by the fact that they're playing, but by the fact how much gil they're actually selling. Evidence I have supporting my statement is reason for one, because I find it hard to believe that anyone is dumb enough to buy gil anymore with so many easy and quick ways available, and especially on a game at this late stage. Also, I don't know about Asura, but I didn't get a single tell in years. Also, character names mean shit.

I'm not saying it as a "doomsayer" i wish to know why SE keeps working against themselves lately and even more so with these boards that were made to listen to us on a better field being ignored now more then ever.

Only they never did anything else. SE have been pushing idiotic moves, one after another, ever since the game was released, and they never listened to anyone at all before these forums (although I agree that it seems like they still don't, I think I'd attribute their "listening" to players' requests to coincidence at this point). Hence, you proclaiming that suddenly everything got worse and they're evil or stupid or whatever, is nothing more than doomsaying.

Then they should change more then just that then, trumpet rings still NPC for a fair amount and i always see the same few people crafting them for hours nonstop by a NPC and that has been abused more then chocoblinkers by use of fishing bots, So if i'm right your saying legit selling of items to NPC's shouldn't be allowed but using 3rd party programs to make money is ok then?

While I hope they adjust that as well, nothing was even nearly as bad as cruor in that respect, not by a long shot. This needed to be addressed asap.

WoTG, which is their last expansion lasted over 6 years, where you actually able to finish the last missions and get your reward. SIX whole years to finish a mission.

It was three years (November 2007 to December 2010). Which is still very bad, and one of the two reasons WotG failed as an expansion in my eyes (the other being lack of rewarding endgame content).

[Luvbunny]

It was three years (November 2007 to December 2010). Which is still very bad, and one of the two reasons WotG failed as an expansion in my eyes (the other being lack of rewarding endgame content).

WoTG has many great ideas that lift invisible walls and offer players events that can be joined by many. Unfortunately, SE did a real poor implementation on WoTG ideas, and still yet refuse to adjust it and acknowledge many great ideas that players have contributed in the forum. Zilart has relic, ToAU has mythic, Abyssea has empyrean, and yet WoTG was given a lackluster downgrade of Empyrean. A lot of things they did make absolutely no sense...

[Secondplanet]

Either your friend or you are lying, I suspect the latter.

You must have missed out on a lot of the game, you do know the game has been going on for more then the limited time its obvious you have been playing for.

Whether they're dead or not is not measured by the fact that they're playing, but by the fact how much gil they're actually selling. Evidence I have supporting my statement is reason for one, because I find it hard to believe that anyone is dumb enough to buy gil anymore with so many easy and quick ways available, and especially on a game at this late stage. Also, I don't know about Asura, but I didn't get a single tell in years. Also, character names mean shit.

In the LS i'm in we're always joking over all the tells we get and to see who can get more in a certain time frame, the way it looks like it works is they go in alphabetical order cause someone with a name starting with L will get a tell and about 30mins-1hour later i'll get one. Also with the character names mean shit you mean to say if you saw a whole party of characters with names like asdfg, qwert, zxcvb and tyuui all on anon doesn't seem a bit off to you? or are you one of the ones employing them?

Only they never did anything else. SE have been pushing idiotic moves, one after another, ever since the game was released, and they never listened to anyone at all before these forums (although I agree that it seems like they still don't, I think I'd attribute their "listening" to players' requests to coincidence at this point). Hence, you proclaiming that suddenly everything got worse and they're evil or stupid or whatever, is nothing more than doomsaying.

I would say that everything is starting to get worse, with the lack of new material, expansions, decent time sinks its easy to see that all they have been doing lately. I have all expansions finished and mini expansions and with VW and legion etc... nothing more then a waste of time for gear with no relevance to any form of a story. I have been seeing more and more changes to abilities and other aspects of the game with little to no positive effect on the game itself.

[Miiyo]

I think the question is can FFXI survive 6 months it takes to release SoA.

I've stopped automatically renewing my account simply cause there isn't enough content so at the end of every month i don't play for 1-3 weeks saving me a few £.

This about sums it up. The stagnant content in 2012 is probably due to the lack of manpower if they're working on a full expansion. They've released enough to keep the majority content. The game isn't in too bad shape. The fact is the majority of players, who is the targeted crowd, have plenty to do. The "hardcore" players that eat content up as soon as it come out, are just out of luck when they run out of stuff to do. It's not that they're not listening. The goal of SE's business is to have ffxi turn in a profit as long as possible, not immediately cater to those who clear content the fastest.

[Secondplanet]

This about sums it up. The stagnant content in 2012 is probably due to the lack of manpower if they're working on a full expansion. They've released enough to keep the majority content. The game isn't in too bad shape. The fact is the majority of players, who is the targeted crowd, have plenty to do. The "hardcore" players that eat content up as soon as it come out, are just out of luck when they run out of stuff to do. It's not that they're not listening. The goal of SE's business is to have ffxi turn in a profit as long as possible, not immediately cater to those who clear content the fastest.

I just find the game itself is getting boring, all the senseless grinding of the same mob over and over to be given logs wears a player down from enjoying a game and being down right bored of the same thing every night. I personally loved how abyssea made it that EVERYONE could get nice gear, it wasn't just to the lucky and the ones who spend their whole life on the game. I have never done nyzul isle at all when ToAU came out cause no one wanted any of the jobs i had or demanded i have experience doing it (how can i get experience if i was never given the chance to experience it.)

I think more content like abyssea would do great for the player base due to low party sizes and everyone can get rewarded. Also before anyone says it i'm not asking for everything to be handed to me. I have player many other MMO's and they deploy a similar method where everyone can have awesome gear without spending 27hours a day 8 days a week on the game.

[Rezeak]

The "hardcore" players that eat content up as soon as it come out, are just out of luck when they run out of stuff to do.

To a point that's true but i would of considered myself a hardcore player till meeble came out.

Honestly i'd still do Legion, Einherjar, Limbus, Meebles, Neo-Nyzle and Dyna, if it wasn't such a huge hassle.

Examples.

Neo-Nyzle while I have 15/15 i do like helping out other ls members/friends with it the problem is cause of the luck factor combined w/ need people that are skilled, you need at least 4 people experienced with NNI or your chances are near 0. Then the other side of having to get people on to a chat program so that we can communicate fast is a large headache.

Odin V2 and Legion are 18+ people events training and keeping a crew for this is alot of effort basically every time you get 2-3 new members until your ready u can't even try mul or Odin, either way the organizational pain that these 18 man+ event bring is something me and alot of my friends keep away from. Legion is easy but for the leaders it's hard lol.

Meeble, 15 mins a day sucks all there is to it.

Limbus/Dyna, i like these events.

Simply put, the all or nothing events like Legion, Odin V2 and NNI while i enjoy them the organzational side of these events are a pain, if there was a different versions like 12 man legion/odin and NNI rewards that scaled linearly with player skill i'd play them easily and be a hell of alot more willing to help newer players.

Edit : As a small side note for more casual players I'm sure the case is even worse since all you really have is Dyna, Aby and Meebles.

Cool thing about FFXIV alot of endgame is linked with story content as well for example w/ Ifrit there is a story mode version (no drops) + Hard mode version (with drops) + Relic challenge one too.

Meaning SE got 3 peices of content out of 1 peice of content.

If Legion has a easy/story mode tied to it then casual players could at least enjoy it and even learn how to play legion making it easier for leaders for the hard mode.

Honestly, that's how SE should be fleshing out it's content rather than using timers/low drop rates.