Is there a future?

[Kristal]

Legit players sell gil to websites which in turn market it back to players.

That was the case in the old days, when RMT started in EQ as a mom&pop middleman thing and quickly blossomed into the hackfest it is today. While some RMT do buy gil, it's at fractions of their sell value since they can do it cheap themselves. Almost all gil sold by RMT comes from bots, with some account hacks when it was possible. It is in the RMT's best interest to cause massive inflation in economies, so that players cannot make enough for their own daily expenses and are forced to buy gil just to play. (A couple of years ago, prices of expensive goods tripled overnight, coinciding with a triple gil sale at a major gil seller... goods sold by accounts belonging to that same RMT)

I've seen at least 5 people get in trouble for using Diaga on a group of mobs held for SMN burn parties. I've NEVER seen or heard of the actual burners getting bansticked.

That was before cleave parties. It's even explicitely allowed in the EULA. But now you can get in trouble if you PREVENT Diaga or similar gather-stealing practises.

[Winrie]

I don't know whats it is like on your server but i know several more secluded spots where there is a character on /anon crafting these rings for hours and yes they did stop once choco blinkers were around but now it seems like they are pickup up pace, You do know that back long ago RMT did do crafting to increase profit margins by turning high gil items into more money with no middle man.



Where id i state i want gil to be hard to make or not make any at all, Just cause i don't bother with fishing doesn't mean anything, i have no issues in the game with gil and if there is that pricey piece of gear i want i can get in a week no problem. Also have you ever traveled to the far off are known as Nashmau? once you get off the boat all you see is the whole area of bluenames like ghjkl fishing nonstop, i don't think they doing it for charity.

Also JohnGotti i wish to point out the fact of how can you even talk about most things when you have just joined the game and don't know the damage RMT has done in the past? I think i'm the one who's glad i'm not on the same server with someone who thinks so little of others for an opinion.

All i was pointing out is that SE will ban/change something but not do the same for others which doesn't make sense.

I'm well aware what RMT have done in the past, and what they are doing lately. But reading your responses, while I sympathize with your anti rmt attitude and agree it needs to stop, you keel using words and examples of PAST rmt actions and events, stuff they did LONG AGO. I'm not sure what fishers are doing in the mire or anywhere outside nashmau but I'm callin bs on it, rmt pick the fastest methods for money, crafting and fishing aren't fast, I can't recall the last time I saw an rmt outside abyssea or port jueno or a gov zone leveling to 30. Relax bro

[Demon6324236]

It might just be me but I haven't leveled fishing, not because I'm lazy, but because it just seems boring as shit, and without bots, I just cant see it being worth boring myself for. The same goes for any craft actually, my Goldsmithing has hit 48 currently I believe, and really I hate leveling it, its just me hitting the same few buttons for a few hours getting a skill up every now & then, nothing fun in the least.

[Mirage]

If legit players sell gil to websites, they aren't legit players. By breaking the EULA they are illegitimate players, they just haven't been discovered by SE yet.

[Alerith]

I've seen at least 5 people get in trouble for using Diaga on a group of mobs held for SMN burn parties. I've NEVER seen or heard of the actual burners getting bansticked.

[Zagen]

I've seen at least 5 people get in trouble for using Diaga on a group of mobs held for SMN burn parties. I've NEVER seen or heard of the actual burners getting bansticked.

I heard rumors about getting banned for selling the items to NPCs, I didn't participate heavily in them back then but I sold drops whenever I did go and never got sent to jail, temp banned, or even a tell from a GM. Come up with your own conclusion but to me it was people who were jealous they couldn't get into astral burns making crap up.

[Camiie]

Does FFXI have a future? Sure it does. I don't subscribe to the theory that SE is actively trying to sabotage the game to manufacture an excuse to shut it down. I think if they really wanted to shut it down they simply would. If they thought that shutting the game down was in their own best interest they'd have zero qualms about doing so no matter who would be angered.

But see, that's their philosophy with content as well. They're going to do what they want to do above all else. Oh, they may compromise here and there when it suits them, but they are going to give us the content that suits their interests. They're going to make the game they want to make, not necessarily the game we want to play. If we happen to like it, that's good. If not, we just didn't get it.

So, yeah FFXI has a future. It's not a particularly bright future unless you're in lockstep with the devs, but a bad future is still a future.

[Luvbunny]

Totally agree, they can shut it down and care nothing about what we think. Though in light of recent changes in the gaming world and how consumers consuming and playing game content, they kind of have to evaluate their stances. You see this happened with FF13. FF13-2 was their effort to address many of the complaints they received with FF13. With the rise of social media and mobile gaming, sooner or later they will have to change their attitude. FF14 pretty much took them down a peg and gave them a very nice long hard lesson for not ignoring your customer base.

[Mirage]

We can only hope that when (if?) FF14 actually starts bringing in some money, they will be able to free up some resources to work a bit more on FF11. Maybe this is why we haven't heard much more about adoulin yet? Could just be that they're currently spending so much on FF14 that they don't have a lot of spare resources to work on adoulin.

As I understand it, they have two separate development teams for FF14. One for the current version, and one for the new version. Hopefully, the people working on the current version could be reallocated to work on FF11 when they finally pull the plug.

And before someone goes all "but the current version sucks, i don't want them working on ff11", keep in mind that the first FF14 version didn't suck simply because everyone involved were poor employees. A lot of the issues were design choices by a person who is no longer working there. There would be no risk of FF11 becoming worse if they take one of the graphics artists who was working mainly with textures and bring him to FF11, for example. With a new expansion and whole new areas, there is probably a lot of texture work to be done. Same with audio related work, area design, NPC dialogue, etc.

[Teraniku]

Maybe this is why we haven't heard much more about adoulin yet? Could just be that they're currently spending so much on FF14 that they don't have a lot of spare resources to work on adoulin.

As I understand it, they have two separate development teams for FF14. One for the current version, and one for the new version. Hopefully, the people working on the current version could be reallocated to work on FF11 when they finally pull the plug.

With XIV going into maintenance non save mode at the end of the month, that should free up some people for XI and SoA.