Is there a future?

[Luvbunny]

I don't think Campaign would have taken off, ever, regardless of any changes. Half of the changes people suggest are just for EXP, skillup or rankup purposes, but none of them has any WotG specific rewards. It wasn't like Limbus, which had AF1+1 and Homam/Nashira gear, or Dynamis with currency and AF2/+1, sky with gods gear and abjurations, etc. Sea, sky, Limbus, Dynamis, Einherjar, Salvage, Nyzul all had relevant endgame gear that kept people playing those events, WotG had nothing comparable, hence people gave up on it.

I totally agree with you on this. I think they drop the ball on WoTG contents, really really badly!! There is hardly any endgame gears, Walk of Echoes is actually a fantastic idea, but as usual, they are implementing it in the most horrible ways possible. Adding more WoTG BCNMs with exclusive gears would works wonder. Adding more gears at 99 you can purchase with AN would revitalize campaign. Adding WoE points for specific gears or augmenting current gears would be fantastic. So many things they can do but none they do.

To be honest WoE do have specific gears that are good. But the overall feel was just not great in comparison to all the others endgame from other expansion. When Voidwatch and Abyssea become the defacto gears, there is something clearly wrong with their game design...

[Arcon]

/sigh.....
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Iron_Ram_Hauberk_Set
lots of pld had few pieces or even the full set if you had to deal with Tiamat and different stuff

Including me. But it doesn't qualify for several reasons:
a) It wasn't endgame. I started EXPing in campaign when no one invited PLDs to parties anymore (which was around Lv60), and I had the full set before I hit 75. It requires neither high level, nor high skills, nor good gear, nor strategy. It was mainly an EXP alternative.
b) It could be done solo, and required no group efforts. It was done by people on their own, whenever they had some time off from regular events, not as a LS. In fact, with competition you sometimes made less, because I remember waves dying too quickly and people not getting enough EXP.
c) It was deterministic (no randomized drops), you could calculate exactly how long it would take you to complete, and there was no way of making it faster or slower, which means you weren't motivated to put any effort in, other than keep hitting mobs in campaign. At some point you simply had enough points and could buy it.
d) That point was not very far away. Aside from the wait time for rankups, it took very little farming to get the necessary points for it. Like I said, I got it just from EXPing regularly when I got the chance.
e) That set for PLD was literally the only good thing about it, and only if you did care enough for some additional magic defense and enmity items. It was only ever useful for high end Paladins who had everything else capped. There was no motivation for anyone else to get their respective sets, as such a large part of the community was not interested in doing it regularly, and the ones that did didn't do so for the items.

To be honest WoE do have specific gears that are good. But the overall feel was just not great in comparison to all the others endgame from other expansion. When Voidwatch and Abyssea become the defacto gears, there is something clearly wrong with their game design...

I'm actually a bit embarrassed that I completely forgot about WoE. Although that fact alone hints at its significance. WoE did indeed have some situational nice gear, and especially expensive gear, but due to its setup and its lotting rules it was never popular to be done as a LS event, but instead it became a pickup event (sometimes involuntarily).

[Luvbunny]

I'm actually a bit embarrassed that I completely forgot about WoE. Although that fact alone hints at its significance. WoE did indeed have some situational nice gear, and especially expensive gear, but due to its setup and its lotting rules it was never popular to be done as a LS event, but instead it became a pickup event (sometimes involuntarily).

There is nothing wrong with large scale events where everyone can participate regardless of their skill levels, knowledge or gears. It's democratic, in a non judgmental way. Everyone can have the same level of fun without too many invisible walls and depending on LS for helps on every single thing. I like WoE, it's fun grinding diversion, it's somewhat rewarding, and it requires not much of effort. Well hopefully they will revamp Campaign and Walk of Echoes. Looking at the way SE works, all they do is giving you half baked new stuffs, do minimal tweak, then move on to the next thing, instead of actually do a full on revision. Whoever designed the battle system and reward system of Abyssea need to get back working on FFXI. I know you don't like Abyssea, but for some reason it is one of those add ons that you just cannot get rid of, no matter how many times you wish that people just abandon the area.... there are still people camping everything over there.

[Luvbunny]

Perhaps we should consult Madam Cleo and ask her if there is a future in this game? Caller? What's your name?

[Sarick]

If we want a voice about this SE could just do something like the FTC is doing now for robo calls.

See this link is how to get the community involved.

Then make a voting system for those suggestions so that everyone can vote on it.

[Winrie]

Simple enough question.

With this new director coming in like a storm announcing a new age to the game and yet fails as hard as the one before him, how long will this game last. I've seen countless posts about people wanting to quit or cancel for a duration in hopes things will get better.

My main point of this post is, Are you trying to make this game so unappealing to new players and current players in a hope to cut down subscriptions so you can pull the plug on it?

You claim balance must be kept but this is selective in choosing. Ex. Astral parties are considered RMT activities and where banned, but FC parties are ok to do when its the same thing but able to be done longer.

You go on about stopping RMT by changing values of items to NPC yes you don't actually go after the RMT itself to stop the damage before its done. Ex. Chocobo blinkers where cut down in value to NPC's yet trumpet rings which fishing bots farm the materials for are still being made by the 1000's.

You do realize you have to level bonecraft and fishing to even do rings right? RMT dont even bother to craft or fish anymore, you need to get with the times. While i agree blinkers was bullshit, and so are these nerfs, but the crybaby trying to dick over everything decent for gil is getting old. When rmt start lvling crafts with the GIL THEY SELL, and start fishing with THE TIME THEY SPEND CLEAVING, then complain about it. As for the dude who said rmt are inactive, you must not be playing a lot lately, they been active for years and are getting heavily active again, gils even been marked up i hear, so yes, they are around, they are active, and i myself have seen them lined up at the blinker npc on many occasions.

[JohnGotti]

Yeah the op is starting to come across as a crybaby who wants gil making to be stopped just because hes to lazy to level fishing or indeed as Winrie said fishing and bonecraft to do those rings, a very jealous horrible person who im glad to say isn't on my server.

[Secondplanet]

You do realize you have to level bonecraft and fishing to even do rings right? RMT dont even bother to craft or fish anymore, you need to get with the times.

I don't know whats it is like on your server but i know several more secluded spots where there is a character on /anon crafting these rings for hours and yes they did stop once choco blinkers were around but now it seems like they are pickup up pace, You do know that back long ago RMT did do crafting to increase profit margins by turning high gil items into more money with no middle man.

Yeah the op is starting to come across as a crybaby who wants gil making to be stopped just because hes to lazy to level fishing or indeed as Winrie said fishing and bonecraft to do those rings, a very jealous horrible person who im glad to say isn't on my server.

Where id i state i want gil to be hard to make or not make any at all, Just cause i don't bother with fishing doesn't mean anything, i have no issues in the game with gil and if there is that pricey piece of gear i want i can get in a week no problem. Also have you ever traveled to the far off are known as Nashmau? once you get off the boat all you see is the whole area of bluenames like ghjkl fishing nonstop, i don't think they doing it for charity.

Also JohnGotti i wish to point out the fact of how can you even talk about most things when you have just joined the game and don't know the damage RMT has done in the past? I think i'm the one who's glad i'm not on the same server with someone who thinks so little of others for an opinion.

All i was pointing out is that SE will ban/change something but not do the same for others which doesn't make sense.

[scaevola]

And thats why i see trains of characters with names like asdfg running through towns and receiving 2-3 /tells a week from them offering me gil at amazingly low prices. Yeah really sounds dead to me.

Legit players sell gil to websites which in turn market it back to players.

This has been going on a while, as even though there comes a certain point where gil flows like water, SE has done a fair to decent job of keeping that out of the reach of throwaway RMT accounts; the only other way to keep the flow of cash going without the contributions of high-level players at a low risk of being banned is account-hacking, which SE has done an AMAZING job of combatting simply by incentivizing the purchase of authenticators to the point where you really can't justify not getting one.

[Sarick]

Legit players sell gil to websites which in turn market it back to players.

What an oxymoron statement! Legit players can't be legit if they are selling gil. Why?, They aren't legit they are Real Money Traders.

I think this sounds better fixed below :

Regular/average players sell gil to websites which in turn market it back to players.