Un-gimping magic procs in dynamis

[Doombringer]

well, wouldn't some of those builds be extreme overkill? seeing as you can only proc a mob once anyway. once it's "good enough" you would be more concerned about killspeed, and a lot of multi-hit weapons are out of style for that.


though i take your larger point, tying proc rate directly to melee speed via enspell could end up WAY out of sync with normal magic. but since normal magic is considered "useless" now anyway, is it so bad if it gets left behind?

[Mirage]

I'd say just buff magic proc rate and leave it at that. As an interesting side note, it might make it viable to use ninjutsu to proc mages here and there. Nin/dnc wouldn't be stuck at JA procs either.

[Kincard]

I'm not sure the Kraken club argument works for two reasons:
1. Krakens clubs arn't exactly raining from the sky. While it's true dedicated (insert applicable job here) would get them, they still sell for 90M+ and I think it's a bit silly to balance an event around the assumption everyone has a weapon only a few people do.
2. You can already use Kraken club and/or shield mastery to get a ton of WS procs out fast anyway, and that's also pretty much tied to your melee speed, so how would it be any different on magic procs?

[Babekeke]

130 posts and noone seemed to pick up on the fact that the reason that magic and ws procs suck, is because they can be AOEd.

JA procs can't.

Magic and ws procs were nerfed because people were cleaving, and againg mobs to proc them fast and sweep an area. Now the only way to get a fair proc rate on them is to cleave/aga them.

[Kincard]

Actually, if I'm not mistaken you can Choke Breath to AoE JA proc on BST and such. How badly nerfed is AoE proccing anyway? I don't think I've seen it happen a single time before.

[Byrth]

In cities/outlands it's still entirely unnerfed. In CoP Dynamis you can only proc your target.

[Xilk]

In cities/outlands it's still entirely unnerfed. In CoP Dynamis you can only proc your target.

You are a bit mistaken. They nerfed the accuracy terribly, but it is not gone. I have double proc'd w/ a single pet ready move perhaps 2x since the nerf.

[Byrth]

Do pet TP moves proc JA or WS weaknesses? I know I Aeolian Edged quite a few monsters after the nerf and never saw a double proc.

[Motenten]

I've double-proc'd using weaponskills on Pup (Spinning Attack), as well as proc'd mobs that weren't the main target. It's rare, but it happens.

[Xilk]

Ready Abilities count as JA
Pup attachments count as WS
SMN BP's count as magic (even if they are physical, which is kinda silly imo)