Un-gimping magic procs in dynamis

[Malthar]

Hello SE,

Any plans of increasing the proc rate of single target magic spells in dynamis?

This fix is much needed to relieve some of the congestion and contention that people face when they square off against other players.

I can say this for sure, neo-dynamis has made enemies of people who ordinarily would not be.

[Mirage]

I agree. While it is true that magic can be "spammed" more easily, we also can't ignore that with the right job or subjob, job abilities are not very far behind. As I understand it, the magic proc rate is around 5%, while JA procs seem to be about 20%. I think it would be more balanced to keep magic procs at somewhere around 10%, and at the same time keep the proc rate reduction for AoE spells.

Another issue is WS procs. It is believed that WS procs are actually at a bit lower rate than JA procs, even though it is usually possible to use JAs much more often than WSes. Additionally, JAs do not have the side effect of killing the mob faster than you are able to proc it. If JAs are at 20%, I think WSes should probably be at around 25-30%, rather than the 15% they are currently believed to be.

At the very least, these proc rate changes could be implemented in City dynamises, which are currently significantly less popular than CoP dynamis and Northlands. This could help to spread the player base over more dynamis areas, so that we don't all have to fight over the best spots in the same few zones.

[Caketime]

I can say this for sure, neo-dynamis has made enemies of people who ordinarily would not be.

P. sure this was intended.

[Luvbunny]

Definitely need this adjustment, as well as making the cities dynamis more currency farming friendly

[Demon6324236]

I dyna as RDM, I can get aggro from magic mobs & even I don't try procing them, with Fast Cast & Dia you would think it would be somewhat reasonable but I have tried before & wasted 3 minutes in my spamming attempts, it just isn't worth it. I would welcome this adjustment, as well as an adjustment to WS procs, seeing as JA doesn't really damage a mob & can be used more often, where as a WS deals alot of damage & can only be used by dealing damage in the 1st place, making it less often, and more dangerous.

[Luvbunny]

I am not quite sure why they won't let magic proc similar to JA. Considering there will be OPTIONS for people to farm and you will see far more other jobs doing it other than your usual dancer, thief and beast master in one zone. A lot of their decisions are just extremely mind boogling. There are 11 dynamis zone that they can make extremely friendly for currency farming and turn it into more abyssea style where you can do it a little at a time for bigger goal. With a daily limit of 2 hours - I doubt you can plow this content fast unless you have tons of gill to spend on currency. I thought they want new ways to absorb those blinker fiasco gils.

[Kincard]

I do approve of this change, though it's probably going to be tough to balance something like this. If they raise the magic proc too high then the most effective thing will be to have a RDM with no subjob team up with any melee(s) and have the RDM going around spamming dia while everyone else bulldozes it the second the RDM procs.

[Demon6324236]

Trust me, magic procs as of now are worthless, even at 10~15% I cant see the use for abuse.

[Luvbunny]

Or they can put a limitation on WHICH magic will proc. Say only 2 spells from each category to prevent abuse, or split it by time, there are so many ways to make it work. Abysea pretty much put a limit on spell proc, which let you proc, but does not let you abuse it. I think they take the easy way out as usual. But honestly - this issue should be adjusted so that it opens up more dynamis area for people to farm currency. We already have 2 hours limit, every 24 hours, the only way you can abuse it if you created 18 mules and each of them are geared for 2 hours rotation dynamis farm, even then only 12 can go with the 2 hours limit.

[Mavrick]

This really is not as complicated as some of you make it out to be.
Simply boost magic proc and have a small 5~10 (perhaps even 15) seconds cool down between each failed attempt at triggering magic proc.

IE.
Boost Magic Proc to 20~30%. If magic fails to trigger proc, the target monster becomes IMMUNE to magic proc for the next 5~10 seconds after which the player can attempt to trigger magic proc again. Very simple and solves the problem of chainspell dia since you'd have to wait between every failed attempt.