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    Player Callidor's Avatar
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    Request: Repeatable Seal quests w/o zoning

    Hi. Just from looking at these boards for about ten minutes, it's apparent that a lot of people think the game is now too easy. To a certain extent, I agree with them. However, I have one (hopefully simple) request, which I think most people will be able to get behind: I think we should be able to repeat af3+1 seals quests without having to zone each time.

    The quests are tedious enough and the drop rates low enough that they're already a significant time sink, and they really aren't any fun. That said, I agree with the widespread sentiment on these forums that our gear shouldn't just be handed to us for free. I think allowing us to repeat the quests as often as we like without having to take the additional time to zone is a pretty reasonable compromise. We'll still have to invest time and energy into upgrading our empyrean gear, and we'll still feel like we've earned it, but it will be just a little bit less annoying.

    Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callidor View Post
    Hi. Just from looking at these boards for about ten minutes, it's apparent that a lot of people think the game is now too easy. To a certain extent, I agree with them. However, I have one (hopefully simple) request, which I think most people will be able to get behind: I think we should be able to repeat af3+1 seals quests without having to zone each time.

    The quests are tedious enough and the drop rates low enough that they're already a significant time sink, and they really aren't any fun. That said, I agree with the widespread sentiment on these forums that our gear shouldn't just be handed to us for free. I think allowing us to repeat the quests as often as we like without having to take the additional time to zone is a pretty reasonable compromise. We'll still have to invest time and energy into upgrading our empyrean gear, and we'll still feel like we've earned it, but it will be just a little bit less annoying.

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    This is where I see that seal issue imbalance most noticeable. My seals come from some of those quests that require more time like Her Father's Legacy, which requires zoning. So either, you have to go to Jeuno and buy another wing or re-enter and get another drop. I would much rather stay in the zone and kill the mobs for lights/TE's and the drop. It would still take a while. But, at least I would be able to work off the same stones while I was getting the item.
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    Player Valaris's Avatar
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    yeah i agree with this. i hate having to zone every time i trade the item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valaris View Post
    yeah i agree with this. i hate having to zone every time i trade the item.
    Same here, You have my vote! I no like having to zone all the time in order to just trade an item in over and over. ^^b

    Edit: Alos maybe put NPCs "Shops" w/in Abyssea where you can sell/buy your loot?
    Edit: Also maybe give us access to the Auction House w/in Abyssea?
    Edit: Also maybe make a quest where we can get a "Bubble KI" where it becomes an Ability to every job/race, Where you can use it to freeze "Time" w/in Abyssea, Once you break that freeze there's a Cooldown timer.
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    Last edited by Krashport; 03-20-2011 at 04:17 AM. Reason: "Edit"

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    Player RAIST's Avatar
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    I would have appreciated this when I was spamming some quests for seals (MNK legs, murex spicule for example)--but I doubt they would do it as there will be some clamour about it making some too easy (like ones you just run and fetch from a ??? and run back).

    Regardless, something needs to be done--some of the quests are just ridiculously more inhibitive than others, yet have the same ridiculously low drop rates for ANY seal (not to mention that more often then not, you get a useless seal for a job that isn't even unlocked, much less leveled to even use the seal).

    On the upside to the issues with seal acquisition though, they did announce a new method for getting them is coming...just no clue what it is yet.

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    Last edited by RAIST; 03-20-2011 at 04:27 AM.
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    Player Francisco's Avatar
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    Being able to buy a ton of galkan sausages / murex spicules and just macro the items and get a ton of AF3 in 5 minutes seems really dumb.

    It would also just heighten the imbalance between quests that require obtaining rare drops (like the malacite one) or the annoying ones where you need to run all over creation.

    AF+1 is already stupidly easy to get.
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    Player Mordanthos's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francisco View Post
    Being able to buy a ton of galkan sausages / murex spicules and just macro the items and get a ton of AF3 in 5 minutes seems really dumb.

    It would also just heighten the imbalance between quests that require obtaining rare drops (like the malacite one) or the annoying ones where you need to run all over creation.

    AF+1 is already stupidly easy to get.
    Oh wow, then plz plz help me get my AF+1 cuz not only do i fail to get the seals for it, I cant even get the base drop for boots, and no one ever helps as i sit in town to shout allllllll day for some NM farm. So how is this easy again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordanthos View Post
    Oh wow, then plz plz help me get my AF+1 cuz not only do i fail to get the seals for it, I cant even get the base drop for boots, and no one ever helps as i sit in town to shout allllllll day for some NM farm. So how is this easy again?
    Very easy. All Seal NMs can be killed with 2 people in like 60 seconds. 4 people total would cover all Grellows, too (Melee, WHM, BLU/NIN, BLM/BRD). If you're lacking Atmas and Abyssites and are thus unable to properly contribute to a group like this, get those first. It's no one's job to carry anyone else and get seals for them.
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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    It's no one's job to carry anyone else and get seals for them.
    You seem to forget that this a a coop game, not WoW. You're supposed to work with people.
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    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    You seem to forget that this a a coop game, not WoW. You're supposed to work with people.
    No, I'm not forgetting anything. I never said people shouldn't work together. I just said it's not my job to carry someone who has no Atmas or Abyssites in a gear run. Most Abyssites are soloable/quested, and RR/MM Atma runs are extremely common. There is a huge difference between working together with players who are undergeared but have the basics set, and carrying someone who doesn't have any Lunar Abyssites but wants full AF3+2.
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