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    Player Mahoro's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post

    * legion is a trap to catch pseudo elitist players formerly from HNMs ( the same that systematically claimed that the last tier VW mobs were not beatable by gimps), where 99% of the gear is subpar or extremly unlikely to get (HQ abjuration with max augment say), and even then if you have it not many don't suck.
    * the real goal of legion is to provide servers with material for crafters to reach 110 skill, which they admitted in a recent post. Its secondary goal is to allow WHMs all over the server and BLM to get arise/meteor for cheap.

    They were dumb enough to let the (imo) only good piece from legion be sold at the AH (aka duplus grip) for cheap.
    Guess those Esper Earrings, Ngen Seraweels, Wrathwing Nails, Wurrakatte Boots, Maniacus Sashes, and Striga Crowns (along with the Duplus Grips, Meteors/Arises and Huginn/Khepri/Iaso abjurations you cited) are hardly worth a 30 minute event for people who have long since capped out on other events. Not to mention the alternative to mind-numbing gil farming (lord knows why some Legion point items sell on the AH but they do). Perhaps we should just sit and watch our Moogle spin in between selling Marrows, and wait a year for the next expansion.

    There is no trap here. There is only an alternative game activity to farming one's 8th Empyrean/Relic, farming one's 200th ADL or killing one's 900th VW mob. And a way to make those final tweaks to jobs. It's also fun, and a rare example of an event that gets the blood racing in a game where nearly everything else induces comas or can be steamrolled. Can you truly not sympathize with any of this?
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    Last edited by Mahoro; 11-18-2012 at 05:13 AM.

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    Player Zamms's Avatar
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    Just to point out this since people still complain about the nerf incoming. ADL can be done without PD or Embrava done it several times. Legion can be done without PD and Embrava done it also was alot more deaths then usual but can be done. NNI well take 2 brds cycle out troub and nightengale and not suck so bad that you lose. Remember back when AV was a zergfest for drk then SE came around and made it resist blood weapon as the fight went on not to mention the sch zerg that was a short lived strat so people stopped til level increase was introduced now there is a ton of AV items all over and the gear is next to nothing in cost. I am not for the nerf but since SE is going to ignore the complaints just need to rework strats and have a good team of people who know what to do and when.
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    getting too old for this s***
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    Player Plasticleg's Avatar
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    To be honest, is it that hard for you to get 2 SCH's with a pimped out Stun-set? Hell, even get a third, if you're scared that you'll have issues. I'm sorry to say, Camiie-dear, but if you want to do the newest and most challanging content in-game, you need to have the most competitive gear and setup to match said content.
    Spending ~3mil on flame geodes and calling it a day just won't cut it.
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    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasticleg View Post
    To be honest, is it that hard for you to get 2 SCH's with a pimped out Stun-set? Hell, even get a third, if you're scared that you'll have issues. I'm sorry to say, Camiie-dear, but if you want to do the newest and most challanging content in-game, you need to have the most competitive gear and setup to match said content.
    Spending ~3mil on flame geodes and calling it a day just won't cut it.
    Flame geodes? Really? You obviously don't know me, and I'm not going to waste time enlightening you. Basically what you're saying is I need to get Neo-Nyzul 100 gear in order to get Neo-Nyzul 100 gear. I need to get Legion gear in order to get Legion gear. I need the most competitive gear to do the most competitive content right? I assume you can see the catch-22 there? I hope someone can, because I don't think SE sees it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    Here's a long irrelevant hyperbole where I tell the world it's my "$12.99"
    Just this...

    Relics and Empys...
    I didn't know they dropped in Legion.

    Also, I didn't mention NNI for being a pre-req to Legion...
    Have a talented and well-geared group of 18~36 people who know the event and communicate well together with Stunners, isn't dropped in NNI.

    It's sad that you can't stay relevant and have to baw everywhere you go.
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    Last edited by Plasticleg; 11-17-2012 at 05:28 PM.

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    Posting here had enough.
    You allow players to use 3rd party programs to beat (nni 15/15 in 4 weeks.. yea you used no hax) do nothing.
    You allow fish bot's to make 3+++ million a day. (see Beaucedine Glacier been going on about a year if not longer).
    You doing nothing about spellcast..... you know what it is. This one thing on it's own destroys you o so important balanced game.

    The player's who follow your user agreement are the ones who suffer, either give us similar advantages (enough macro Lines to change gear and ws for example), ban them, or put this shambles of a game down once and for all.

    I want a response to this post not from players, but from dev team.

    Apart from these issues love the game ty, SE.
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    Player Randwolf's Avatar
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    First, as always, nerfing long-standing abilities is ridiculous. Especially, for the excuse given by S/E. What that excuse says is "while we expect players to be creative in beating content, we aren't capable being of creative while designing it."

    Secondly, a lot of players wanted more difficult/challenging content which required people in a group to have invested time into their job. However, if we are going back to content that can't be beaten, then why waste my time on it. Please tell me which content can't be beaten so I don't spend time banging my head against the wall.

    This attitude does not bode well for the expansion coming up. It may be time to get out of FFXI, if the designers have no creativity left and we are rolling the game back to where it was 6 years ago. A lot of my friends have moved on to other games. Perhaps it's time to join them. Very sad, S/E.
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    Player Falseliberty's Avatar
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    I remember everyone crying over the uko and victory smite nerf... guess what!
    war and mnk still on the top of the food chain this thou might be diff for smn and sch.

    There is much much bigger problem atm, In short the game didn't scale well to 99 from 75.
    Yes I know the game wasn't very balanced either at 75 but look at it now.
    When was the last time a brd cast ballad? When was the last time rdm cast refresh (when was the last time someone even saw a rdm). When was the last time a pld main tanked the big boss and not play mr/mrs hold the adds.
    When was the last time a thf did SATAWS for hate control. When was the last time enfeebling magic mattered.
    Core game mechanics that used to exist, no longer (mp management,hate control, dedicated tanking, debuffing)
    While everything else in the game moved forward those long time staples kinda fell behind.
    This is much bigger than just PD or embrava.

    PS doesn't help that everything SE adds is a 20-30 min timed event as of late *NNI legion meebles* forwarding the notion of zerging
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    Player saevel's Avatar
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    It's also fun, and a rare example of an event that gets the blood racing in a game where nearly everything else induces comas or can be steamrolled. Can you truly not sympathize with any of this?
    Ehh I kinda agree with most of what you said except this. Legion is steamrolled just like everything else. Instead of PD spammage you use Embrava and a few SCH/BLM's stun locking the NM's so they don't get any of their moved off. The strategies are essentially the same, you deny the target any offensive capability while having a group of highly buffed melee's zerg it down. The hardest part of legion is the complex invite / drops that need to be orchestrated to save as much time as possible. That and the SCH's being really good at timing their stuns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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