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  1. #141
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    Since they fixed dynamis, theres been hyperinflation. People 'create' new gil everytime they npc something and the rate at which gil is being created(Hakyrus, Blinkers) was vastly faster than gil being deleted(Legion). People can make millions a day on multiple accounts/characters using blinkers/fishing but the only way gil is deleted is through NPC sales which is really only limbus/legion/einherjar and is frankly almost nothing in comparison.
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    So three dollar markup on Gil?

    I got it now.
    Players find great Gil method, lots of cash rolls into players pockets, price per mil declines for rmt, SE nerfs cruor to Gil methods, Gil price increases and rmt continue what they are doing.

    Taking the fight to real money trading~
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  3. #143
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    So yeah. There was apparently 1 IG-Alima run, 1 Kaggen run, and 2 other VW groups that tried to form but disbanded today due to lack of interest on Quetzalcoatl.
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  4. #144
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    Sounds like VW will be leaving us soon, and seeing as its the current most popular event outside of Abyssea, and the only event made since Abyssea you can do as much as you wish, things are going to be slowing down even more around here.
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    Since they fixed dynamis, theres been hyperinflation. People 'create' new gil everytime they npc something and the rate at which gil is being created(Hakyrus, Blinkers) was vastly faster than gil being deleted(Legion).
    Had they actually make Legion worth doing, billions of gils would be deleted. Should they make heavy metal plates drop in a lot of VW events instead of one in particular, another billions would vanish. Had Meeble Burrow designed with some IQ in mind, another billion will evaporate. The same can be said to salvage adjustment, etc... Those are just easy way to make the game more accessible without resorting to ridiculous bad news we have been getting lately.
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  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winrie View Post
    So three dollar markup on Gil?

    I got it now. Players find great Gil method, lots of cash rolls into players pockets, price per mil declines for rmt, SE nerfs cruor to Gil methods, Gil price increases and rmt continue what they are doing. Taking the fight to real money trading~
    Seriously, you wonder if SE is actually behind these gilsellers website. Gil used to be a massive problems and created boring grindfest of farming. Since abyssea inception, I never once need to do any farm whatsoever for gil with all those items you can sell to NPC and items from gold boxes fetching decent prices on AH. Whenever you need gil, you just farm cruors and do more voidwatch to make up the difference. Life was good, they actually created the perfect 2 hours for mages with Embrava. Obviously a band of misfits monkey is ruling the office now, first order is to make sure the game is not accessible, take the fun out of playing and enforce back the crazy idiotic grindfest that is not even fun to begin with.
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  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerji View Post
    Removing Abyssea cruor chaining would have mostly targeted RMT and left VW unscathed.
    Removing Abyssea exp chaining, you mean. RMT are selling slots in cleave parties, and if they have their 'customers' pay for for forbidden keys to open chests it's all profit to them.
    Kill the exp chain, and it all unravels. Kill the cruor chain, and all you've done is hurt real players, like those who did not yet max out every atmacite or need brews for lowman farming abyssea NM drops.

    Honestly, was there anyone who did NOT see this coming? SE has done this same thing, over and over and over again.
    This method was feeding gil into the economy at a obscene rate, and it had to be nerfed.
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  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    I guess they have to make up the difference somehow lol. This game went from being really fun to play and enjoyable in the last two years, now heading into the downhill slope. Funny thing is, most of the new adjustments did not affect me greatly at all, but the mount of negativity is enough to turn me off from playing this game altogether.
    Lol, cuz ppl are exageratting. Just because other ppl tell you they're unhappy with blinker nerf, doesn't mean it will affect you negativity.

    To clear things up, if you don't
    1. have multiple account leeching in cruor pt
    2. blinker bot
    3. currently building an empy 99, or still need ex/rare from VW without hMP/cinder/dross drop.


    Then you actually got benefit from this nerf. Cruor-->NPC was actually worse income/hr for anyone doesn't have multiple account. I've tried it, I only have 1 character, and with limited inventory space, I make less gil/hr than other ways of farming gil such as ADL/solo dyna and salvage. Same with without blinker bot. If I don't bot, the time I spent on farming and NPCing cruor I can make gil in other ways much faster. It just benefits those who bot so they can make gil while going to bed/work etc.

    For anyone doesn't have more than 1 character and bot for NPC/blinkering, item price(except HMP/cinder/dross) will drop, you ended up having to pay less gil when you buy your gears.

    Although VW item price may piss off players currently building an empy 99, but I also have to point out a while ago, hMP price dropped to 85k on my server, while alex still 20k+ and O.piece 8.4k+, because everyone spams VW day and night, nobody want to build empy 99, but everyone want to build relic/mythic, which made relic 99 actually cheaper than dross empy 99. And it's not really "balanced" if empy 99 price is much cheaper than relic 99 no?
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  9. #149
    Player Luvbunny's Avatar
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    The blinkers fiasco does not really affect me much, what really annoys me is the fact that you cannot sell abysea gears anymore to NPC. Gil is never a problem for me, since most of the gears are rare/ex and all the good weapons you do magian trials for those. What worries me is that with the nerf, RMT will try to find new ways to encroach new activities to milk. SE should just let you exchange rare/items with cruors or use cruors to buy dynamis currency. Or better yet, fixed campaign and WoTG Bcnms to make those drops more ancient currency, it makes perfect sense where you can get those in the past.
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 10-24-2012 at 05:31 PM.

  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    it just made it easier for people to do something repetitive that they chose to do for money instead of actually play the game.
    if you're not leeching you ARE playing the game when you farm cruor like when you farm dyna and more than when you /sh for whatever event,


    Lol you call that work! Cruor should be easy to make because you can buy brews with it, not so you can create a ton of gil. You aren't increasing the amount of actual goods on the server so you shouldn't be making massive profits.
    lol you call brewing NM work? there is no reason to make cruor easy to get .
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