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    Player Gwydion's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Bumping old threads and being excessively polite isn't going to change that we already have the answers that SE has given us.

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    Man... I'm sorry about that, really I am. But SE answered the questions raised in the thread ages ago. We talked about it ages ago, and the answer has been there the entire time. Necrobumping the thread isn't going to change that. and the tone of your posts sometimes... it just comes across to me as laying it on overtly thick i.e. sucking up. It's hard to not think that, as I realize you have the best of intentions. But can you just.... write normally without 20 buckets of pleasantries?

    This knowledge wasn't needed to "remain current" then, it isn't now, and I'm pretty sure SE feels like they've answered the questions about TH to their own satisfaction and likely consider the topic closed.

    Having them re-answer the questions they already answered years ago isn't going to magically make THF more relevant. I suspect that if they do actually think THF lacks relevance more than I would argue several other jobs do, t hey would increase it's combat capabilities, not simply reveal details about THF (which again, I don't think are a secret) so you can maybe pick a few pieces of gear from what you're already using.

    This really feels like some kind of superstition like the crafting compass. SE has already told us how TH works. People have been hypothesizing that there are some imagined hidden factors at work yet no one has been able to prove that with any testing in the 13+ years since the subject was first raised. You really should just assume that crit does not affect TH procing, there has never been any clear evidence that it does, SE has never said that it did, and it doesn't even make sense any more than facing certain directions while crafting did. Simply gear yourself under the assumption that crit is not a factor. And maybe consider suggesting ways to make THF more relevant beyond simply making TH marginally more effective.

    Please don't necrobump a topic unless you have something meaningful to add. You merely repeated information you posted previously.

    ... Thank you for your time.
    Speaking with empathy, is not "sucking up", sir. Let this be a gentle reminder that a person (not AI) is writing and reading these posts:
    • How about you offer your opinion on my question? Do you agree or disagree and Why?
    • The additive question is relative to Hoxne Ring.
    • I speak politely because I'm know that I'm engaging SE employees who are overworked and already spread quite thin as it is.
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    私の言葉に悪意があるとは考えないでください。
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    Speaking with empathy, is not "sucking up", sir. Let this be a gentle reminder that a person (not AI) is writing and reading these posts:

    [LIST][*]How about you offer your opinion on my question? Do you agree or disagree and Why?
    I believe the answer lies in the rest of the thread. As I noted, we'd already discussed this over a year ago.


    I speak politely because I'm know that I'm engaging SE employees who are overworked and already spread quite thin as it is.
    I understand that. But I've always felt like a plainly worded, thoughtful comment communicates that on its own. Maybe it's just my neurodiverse nature but unless I make anger or other emotions plain in my language, I usually feel like it's implied that I will appreciate responses and any time spent reading my comment without necessarily saying so every time. I just like to be direct and to the point to the extent I'm able.

    The additive question is relative to Hoxne Ring.
    Okay, fair enough, as it seems we have a new effect here, so a question regarding this specifically is warranted. But fair question, is this ring competing with anything? I'm not sure there are two other rings with TH+2? It seems like a no-brainer to use it regardless. But I'll admit I'm not fully familiar with all of the relevant gear available, as I don't main THF and only use TH items available to other jobs.

    I speak politely because I'm know that I'm engaging SE employees who are overworked and already spread quite thin as it is.
    My comment mainly stems from you reposting things you posted previously, and that you re-asked a previously asked question that I frankly feel was already answered by SE as discussed in past conversation. I was fixated on that and didn't notice the item question. Apologies, that error is on me. But the item question didn't necessitate re-posting already-discussed content, in my opinion.


    I'm a regular on another forum where people are routinely bumping years old threads without adding anything to them (known as necro-bumping, a typically frowned-upon practice on internet forums)- it doesn't seem like they even check the dates before posting. In this case though, I agree there is something new to cover here. Again, I admittedly glossed over it because of the other content of your post, and once again, I apologize for that.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 12-08-2025 at 08:40 PM.