TH Procing

[Dihlyte]

You cannot raise the proc rate, but using a TH value lower than the enemies, will lower your chances to proc.

Using only TH+8 to try procing to 10 is inefficient.

Using TH+22 is no better than using TH+14, as 14 is the highest value you can proc.

This is the community now telling you TH+8 is not the most effective means by which attempting to proc to TH+14.

This information is also on BGwiki, and has been:

Example 2: If you plant TH6 on the monster by pulling with your TH gear on and then swap to TH3 to kill the monster, there is a 3-level gap between your current TH level and the monster's current TH level. This makes it comparatively more difficult to proc (approximately a 2% chance per melee round).

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Treasure_Hunter

As well as FFXIcylopedia:

The chance to increase your TH bonus greatly diminishes with each level of difference between the target's current Treasure Hunter effect and your current Treasure Hunter bonus. For example, if you apply TH8 on a monster, and then drop your TH bonus to 3 by switching equipment, further increments will be that much rarer.

https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Treasure_Hunter

[Catmato]

Please read.

Why start off by being condescending? I'm legit trying to learn.

I've understood the concept from the start; it's not that complicated. I'm not disagreeing or confused with any part of how the upgrade system works, just the cap on TH gear.

Devs have said that TH+ from gear and traits caps at 8. You are saying otherwise. Everything you're basing your replies on assumes that the TH8 cap only applies to the starting point but is bypassed for upgrade procs.

From your own link at https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Treasure_Hunter

Treasure Hunter+ from equipment stacks with your Job Trait bonus, Atma of Dread, and Treasure Hound, and caps at 8 for Thief as a main job.

Also at bg https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Treasure_Hunter

With THF as a main job, the effect of equipment, atma, and job ability bonuses on Treasure Hunter is limited to a base of Treasure Hunter +8

Neither source makes any reference to procs bypassing this cap. Neither of them use example numbers for using anything beyond +8. From the start, I've been asking you where this cap bypass information came from.

[Dihlyte]

Why start off by being condescending? I'm legit trying to learn.

I've understood the concept from the start; it's not that complicated. I'm not disagreeing or confused with any part of how the upgrade system works, just the cap on TH gear.

Devs have said that TH+ from gear and traits caps at 8. You are saying otherwise. Everything you're basing your replies on assumes that the TH8 cap only applies to the starting point but is bypassed for upgrade procs.

From your own link at https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Treasure_Hunter

Also at bg https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Treasure_Hunter


Neither source makes any reference to procs bypassing this cap. Neither of them use example numbers for using anything beyond +8. From the start, I've been asking you where this cap bypass information came from.

I'm sorry that was not my intention.

I felt you were not reading what was being said.

I believe personally that the developer cleared up any questions anyone could have.

For me, I will utilize a TH14 THF.

If you will utilize a TH8 THF perhaps that is more beneficial to you.

The important thing is to have fun!

[Alhanelem]

I'm sorry that was not my intention.

I felt you were not reading what was being said.

I believe personally that the developer cleared up any questions anyone could have.

For me, I will utilize a TH14 THF.

If you will utilize a TH8 THF perhaps that is more beneficial to you.

The important thing is to have fun!

Their statement is you cannot obtain TH14 in gear. They aren't disputing that more TH is better than less, that's a given. Thus, once you reach TH8, you're always being penalized by a difference between your TH and that of the mob. And this would seem to be the reason people want to figure out how to optimize.

However, SE themselves said that only TH affects the TH activation rate. So unless SE is being secretly cryptic (like what is being assumed in some cases) there's nothing we can do to affect the proc rate positively once we get to 8. I do not think there is anything THFs can or need to do in order to optimize their game for their key purpose beyond obtaining the maximum TH from gear)