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    Player Dihlyte's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoy View Post
    They also wrote:
    "However, when the value of Treasure Hunter placed on a monster and the value of the Treasure Hunter on your character are different, this will cause the growth rate to vary. With that said, if you want to increase the Treasure Hunter value, it is best to utilize equipment that has the Treasure Hunter+ effect. By unequipping Treasure Hunter+ gear, you are essentially creating a gap between the value placed on the monster and your character, which results in an inefficient means for increasing the TH value."
    Maybe I'm missing something, but does this not pretty clearly mean that yes, the chance for triggering the value going up is affected by the difference between your treasure hunter level, and the one currently on the enemy?

    It's also how it always felt to me in practice. For example, if the monster is currently at treasure hunter at level 4, and I go at it with 8, leveling it up will likely trigger much faster than it would when staying at 4.

    Testing just how big of a difference there would be between 4 and 5 versus 4 and 8 would probably take a silly amount of time, and I'd definitely rather go for 8 in any case, but that's me. ^^

    As for the critical question, I don't think that one has an effect on this, but I would not be surprised if it did...
    It is very clearly stated by Square-Enix, that having a higher value of TH+ equipment increases the chance to raise the TH value.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post

    Adding Treasure Hunter+ via equipment, or other means, will not increase the rate at which the Treasure Hunter value grows, as this is a set rate. However, when the value of Treasure Hunter placed on a monster and the value of the Treasure Hunter on your character are different, this will cause the growth rate to vary. With that said, if you want to increase the Treasure Hunter value, it is best to utilize equipment that has the Treasure Hunter+ effect. By unequipping Treasure Hunter+ gear, you are essentially creating a gap between the value placed on the monster and your character, which results in an inefficient means for increasing the TH value.

    there is a concern that this would reduce the value of equipment with Treasure Hunter+ and also takes away all the hard work some players have put into maximize their Treasure Hunter, we would like to keep it as it is currently.
    Or more simply put:

    Mob TH Value = 10
    THF TH value =9

    Let's say the default TH proc rate is 15%
    Now let's say TH Proc rate in this 10 to 9 ratio is 10%

    So if you have TH+ Equipment Value of 14 then you will gain benefit of the full 15% chance to proc all the way until you reach 14. (The max proc value.)

    If you have TH value total of 8 on a THF, you will have a **reduced** chance to proc above TH 8.

    It is very clearly stated by SE themselves, that this is the case.

    More TH will not increase the default "15%" chance, but having less than 14 will **lower** your chances to proc higher than your current value against the mob.

    It is not complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dihlyte View Post
    It is very clearly stated by Square-Enix, that having a higher value of TH+ equipment increases the chance to raise the TH value.



    Or more simply put:

    Mob TH Value = 10
    THF TH value =9

    Let's say the default TH proc rate is 15%
    Now let's say TH Proc rate in this 10 to 9 ratio is 10%

    So if you have TH+ Equipment Value of 14 then you will gain benefit of the full 15% chance to proc all the way until you reach 14. (The max proc value.)

    If you have TH value total of 8 on a THF, you will have a **reduced** chance to proc above TH 8.

    It is very clearly stated by SE themselves, that this is the case.

    More TH will not increase the default "15%" chance, but having less than 14 will **lower** your chances to proc higher than your current value against the mob.

    It is not complicated.
    For Gwydion, note this part:
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate
    Adding Treasure Hunter+ via equipment, or other means, will not increase the rate at which the Treasure Hunter value grows, as this is a set rate.
    Based on what Camate posted, the maximum TH proc rate is not influenced by anything: "This is a set rate."
    This essentially says there is nothing else, like crit or anything, that modifies the rate. And even then the rate only changes if your TH+ isn't high enough.

    You basically have your answer, and it's from an official source.
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