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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    Speaking with empathy, is not "sucking up", sir. Let this be a gentle reminder that a person (not AI) is writing and reading these posts:

    [LIST][*]How about you offer your opinion on my question? Do you agree or disagree and Why?
    I believe the answer lies in the rest of the thread. As I noted, we'd already discussed this over a year ago.


    I speak politely because I'm know that I'm engaging SE employees who are overworked and already spread quite thin as it is.
    I understand that. But I've always felt like a plainly worded, thoughtful comment communicates that on its own. Maybe it's just my neurodiverse nature but unless I make anger or other emotions plain in my language, I usually feel like it's implied that I will appreciate responses and any time spent reading my comment without necessarily saying so every time. I just like to be direct and to the point to the extent I'm able.

    The additive question is relative to Hoxne Ring.
    Okay, fair enough, as it seems we have a new effect here, so a question regarding this specifically is warranted. But fair question, is this ring competing with anything? I'm not sure there are two other rings with TH+2? It seems like a no-brainer to use it regardless. But I'll admit I'm not fully familiar with all of the relevant gear available, as I don't main THF and only use TH items available to other jobs.

    I speak politely because I'm know that I'm engaging SE employees who are overworked and already spread quite thin as it is.
    My comment mainly stems from you reposting things you posted previously, and that you re-asked a previously asked question that I frankly feel was already answered by SE as discussed in past conversation. I was fixated on that and didn't notice the item question. Apologies, that error is on me. But the item question didn't necessitate re-posting already-discussed content, in my opinion.


    I'm a regular on another forum where people are routinely bumping years old threads without adding anything to them (known as necro-bumping, a typically frowned-upon practice on internet forums)- it doesn't seem like they even check the dates before posting. In this case though, I agree there is something new to cover here. Again, I admittedly glossed over it because of the other content of your post, and once again, I apologize for that.
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    It's not TH+8 in gear that is the cap but TH8 including gear and traits.
    It's understood as you said, that wearing higher TH increases you likelihood to proc a TH upgrade. What you failed to mention is the data leaning heavily toward working on procs with TH9+ not having any further impact on upgrade rate than just staying TH8.

    As such, if you just tag an enemy with TH8, then swap to TH3 for the rest of the fight, you are unlikely to get any/many procs at all. If you full time TH8, you should get some upgrade/s depending on the duration of the fight.

    At least this is what I have taken from the thread on AH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidstorm View Post
    It's not TH+8 in gear that is the cap but TH8 including gear and traits.
    It's understood as you said, that wearing higher TH increases you likelihood to proc a TH upgrade. What you failed to mention is the data leaning heavily toward working on procs with TH9+ not having any further impact on upgrade rate than just staying TH8.

    As such, if you just tag an enemy with TH8, then swap to TH3 for the rest of the fight, you are unlikely to get any/many procs at all. If you full time TH8, you should get some upgrade/s depending on the duration of the fight.

    At least this is what I have taken from the thread on AH.
    I don't believe anybody is debating that part. If you look at the grid that Gwydion posted, it's all wearing TH+5 and above. There are some who believe that the TH8 (trait+gear) cap only applies to the initial application and that wearing more than TH8 (TH3 trait + 5 in gear) after that initial application increases the TH upgrade proc rate.
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    SE, Please replace the proc system with THF getting access to TH9~14 based on gear, traits, and gifts directly.

    Also, please increase the not-THF Treasure Hunter cap to 8. ( Full Jeuno Volte set + ammo = 8 )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidstorm View Post
    SE, Please replace the proc system with THF getting access to TH9~14 based on gear, traits, and gifts directly.

    Also, please increase the not-THF Treasure Hunter cap to 8. ( Full Jeuno Volte set + ammo = 8 )
    Honestly, I think it's silly that we have TH+20 or 25 in gear now ...and can't use it effectively. I think the Proc Rate for TH1-7 and 8-14 should be different.
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