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    Player Danita's Avatar
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    Canceling my Account

    For casual players (me), here's what end-game looks like:

    Einherjar - Inaccessable. Requires too many people. Unlike Japan, the US has to deal with 3hr time zone differences between friends, so getting 18 people together just isn't viable for casuals, especially on some kind of regular schedule. I have all feathers up to tier three from doing this with a handful of people, but it gets too hard to low-man after that.

    Legion - Inaccessable. Not only does this take a lot of people, but they need to be elite. I may never know what the inside of a legion zone looks like.

    Abyssea - Perfect. Can show up with any group size, accomplish minor goals, make progress on major goals, get exp/gil. This is literally the only reason I have been playing; there is always something to do and it's always interesting.

    Dynamis - Very good. The mandatory JA procs and reliance on TH makes this boring since only a tiny selection of jobs meet both requirements, but the event scales nicely with small groups and the reward system is acceptable. Magic procs should happen at the same rate as JA procs, and WS procs should have the highest rate (10% chance per time stat). The Arch NM's are all impossible for casuals, but there is enough reward available without doing those.

    Magian Weapon Trials - Good. It's nice that you can do this at your own pace, but some trials are needlessly boring. Weather trials were reduced drastically to combat this, which was good, but the same treatment needs to happen for "Killing Blow" trials and other similar things. For example, I can't bring myself to keep working on my 100TP Great Katana because I have already finished three trials by doing six hundred weaponskills (bored to death while doing it), yet I am left with a requirement for two thousand more. Without this weapon I'm unable to play my SAM in events. The result is I don't play my SAM any more, and it's depressing.

    Limbus - Mediocre. If I could do Limbus daily, I would farm my own coins and get AF+1 things in the process, plus get chips for the original U/O fights. But I can only do this two times per week, and that means I can't afford to waste an opportunity to do the new Arch-U/O content requirements. The result is that I farm Dynamis for money to buy 75 or 150 Ancient Beastcoins from other people. The time restriction has turned a once fun and rewarding event into a money-sink that I want to put behind me as soon as we finish getting gear form the bosses.

    VoidWatch - Mediocre. The event is generally well designed and fun. The ability to teleport around Vanadiel is great! The reward system, however, is infuriating. For example: My girlfriend got Ace's Mail on her first fight. It's on her Mannequin (she can't use it). She wanted to make it into a Pulse: Cell and give it to me, but then I would only have 1/5 of an Ace's Mail. While there is a chance she might someday use her mail, there is no chance I will be able to use 1/5 of an Ace's Mail, so I told her don't bother. My girlfriend also has Hekka's Kalsiris where I don't, so until I get this she's kind of stuck being our healer. Being stuck in a role because of luck is not fun. Finally, my girlfriend got Mekira-Meikogai the other day and put it on her 2nd mannequin. Even more amazingly, on our next attempt she got it again and took a pulse cell. Then we got more stones and tried again and she got it again. Then we tried it again and she got it again. So, she got 4 of them, put 1 on her mannequin, took 3 pulse cells and gave them to me, all in the span of about an hour. What was the net result? Four times she got lucky, and her reward for that was that I had to take four million gil out of our shared bank to buy the other two cells to complete my armor, even though she earned the thing four times. If we had beaten Byakko and got four Haidate in the old days, that would have been 4 Haidates in our linkshell, not 1 plus a four million gil debt for a second person. The fact that it takes one person getting lucky 6 times to get 2 body armors is terrible when you consider the drop rates. Trading 1 lucky occurance for 1/5th of an item is unfair. 1 drop should be worth 1 drop. The other frustrating thing is the hundreds of Qilins I have done with her, and I have yet to get myself a Lux (she's gotten 5 or 6 of them).

    Meeble Burrows - Poor. This is another interesting and fun event at first glance. The time on it is perfect, the activities are interesting, and the rewards are exciting. If entry were restricted like Assault tags OR boss fight entry were restricted like Einherjar chambers are, then this event would be fine. You combined both restrictions in one event though, so now the time it will take to earn this gear stretches off so far into the future that I can't visualize success. Add to that the fact some items clearly won't be 100% drops, and this requires efforts of such great duration that by the time all of the gear can be obtained, it will be obsolete.

    NeoNyzul - Terrible. Too difficult. Casuals can actually do everything in Nyzul; we are able to beat all bosses and many of us have captain rank and floor 100 tags from 75-era; we loved that event. What we can't do is finish this event before timing out. As a result of NN, the best geared people in the game get even better while the casual crowd is locked out of any hope for success, and that's totally unlike the old Nyzul. You need to allow us to save our climb by choosing to exit after defeating a boss, so that even if it takes us five times as long, the casual crowd has achievable goals to work for, yet the challenge to win is retained.

    You guys are so afraid that we will beat all your content and quit, that you make it so only a tiny handful of people can actually beat it. The result is that I can't stand any of it any more. If I were winning most things, I'd play more, not less. You have it backwards.

    Anyway, Voidwatch made me feel like I wanted to quit, but I stuck around for revamped events. NeoNyzul turned out to be a spectacular failure and I nearly quit except that I was willing to stick around and see if you would fix it. Then I heard Meeble Burrows was actually really interesting on the test server, so that was another reason to stay. Now, with the actual release being so time-consuming that there is no point in trying, and nothing being fixed about your previous problem events, I'm done. 3 strikes and I'm out.
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    Player Mirage's Avatar
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    Can I pick up your gil with a mule?

    More seriously though, I think most of your points are valid.
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    Player detlef's Avatar
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    Have to nitpick a bit, Einherjar only requires six people. You can realistically clear with even less but you do need six minimum to avoid being booted out after 10 minutes.
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    Player Leonardus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danita View Post
    You guys are so afraid that we will beat all your content and quit, that you make it so only a tiny handful of people can actually beat it. The result is that I can't stand any of it any more. If I were winning most things, I'd play more, not less. You have it backwards.
    As they say: This, so much.

    Are you listening, SE?
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    Two things.

    1) Voidwatch drops are 100% fair. Sure the drop rate on body pieces and weapons are 2-3% but take into account the following comparisons to old events:
    -While Sky Gods and Kings dropped gear more often, their pops had to either be farmed or they had a long repop time.
    -For Kings which popped once a day, they were camped by 5+ different groups, most botted.
    -Assuming your LS claimed the thing and killed it, it had a 15-20% or so of dropping what you wanted(unless it was dring).
    -Assuming the item did indeed drop, do you have enough points/standing/dkp to lot it versus other people/senior members?

    So with all that taken into consideration, VW drops are MORE than fair. You can literally pop Akvan an infinite number of times per day. Because of that, as long as you have a competent group and enough stones/gil/cp/an to pop Akvan you will get your drop EVENTUALLY and uncontestably. 2-3% drop rate seems low but if you can pop it an enormous number of times per day, it beats trying your luck at claiming King Behemoth once every 5 days for an abjuration that may or may not drop or that you may or may not be allowed to lot. I'll take the VW drop mechanics over old mechanics any day.

    Second thing I want to mention is I'm not sure how exaggerated your post is because you lose a lot of credibility with:
    For example: My girlfriend got Ace's Mail on her first fight. It's on her Mannequin (she can't use it). She wanted to make it into a Pulse: Cell and give it to me, but then I would only have 1/5 of an Ace's Mail. While there is a chance she might someday use her mail, there is no chance I will be able to use 1/5 of an Ace's Mail, so I told her don't bother.
    Ace's Mail does not have a corresponding Pulse Cell. It's actually a fairly common drop from him. Uptala's rare drop is the glowing GK. Ace's Mail drops like candy dude.
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    Player Plasticleg's Avatar
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    Don't worry, they're only quitting for WoW.
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    Ace's Mail does not have a corresponding Pulse Cell. It's actually a fairly common drop from him. Uptala's rare drop is the glowing GK. Ace's Mail drops like candy dude.
    While I agree on the fact it has no Pulse Cell, I did more than enough Uptala with my friend to get him Ace's Mail, in over 50 kills he never got the body, where as I literally got probably 6~7, 1 nearly every single run, in fact, I dualboxed a run with my mule & GF's character, getting a Mail for my GF on the 2nd kill, and a Mail for my mule on my 3rd kill.

    As for the old drops being worse, just because this is better than shit, doesn't mean it isn't still shit, it just means its a little bit better shit.
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    Player Sarick's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasticleg View Post
    Don't worry, they're only quitting for WoW.
    lol
    My server ranking went up/down over 100pts in under 3 days. It was 377 now it's 262. If you think this is normal whoosh.

    Either a lot of higher ranking players are getting BAN or they're quitting.

    Use some judgement after reading this players post.
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    Player Plasticleg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarick View Post
    My server ranking went up/down over 100pts in under 3 days. It was 377 now it's 262. If you think this is normal whoosh.

    Either a lot of higher ranking players are getting BAN or they're quitting.

    Use some judgement after reading this players post.
    Don't use the server ranking from FFXIAH for anything except a quick giggle. IIRC, a pretty terrible RMT used to be number 1.

    But back on-topic, SE only bans dupes, speed hacks, fishbots, and RMTs who are dumb enough to trade millions through players over a short period of time. To be honest, most people who already have their weapons to 99 (lolaftermath), are not going to stay active until SoA expansion releases sometime next year. SE is extremely out-of-touche with a lot of players, the OP just seems to be one of them.

    It's also more that they are crying about well-known shitty events, and ragequitting because of them. lol
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    Last edited by Plasticleg; 09-30-2012 at 04:12 AM.

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    Player Sp1cyryan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonardus View Post
    As they say: This, so much.

    Are you listening, SE?
    What is not easily beatable in this game? Come on, seriously..

    While SE is a bit out of touch (not nearly as much as they have been in the past) I think a lot of people are out of touch with reasoning, common sense, and even patience.

    Someone claiming that SE makes content in this game that only a tiny group of people can complete (outside of aftermath trials, but really that is post 99 weapon anyway) is probably out of touch with all three.

    PS. Nyzul is not broken at all.
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    Last edited by Sp1cyryan; 09-30-2012 at 07:02 AM.

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