Race/gender/name change choice

[Sunrider]

13 likes of 498 views. 485 people who dislike or don't give a crap about it. And that's not counting the people that /rolleyes and didn't even bother opening the thread because it's the same thing every time. Kinda speaks for itself, doesn't it?

Not really.

The subject of race change alone was brought up several times in the "tell the producer what you want" thread, each post getting it's own individual support. This is to say nothing of the individual threads that sprout from time to time, each with more supportive responses than negative.

Those who don't give a crap may not be bothered to agree with the idea, but they certainly don't oppose, either. As time progresses, I think more people have come to realize that there is simply no good reason to oppose race change: it's discussion actually recalls past discussions of server change, before the devs finally implemented that.

[Llana_Virren]

Not really.

The subject of race change alone was brought up several times in the "tell the producer what you want" thread, each post getting it's own individual support. This is to say nothing of the individual threads that sprout from time to time, each with more supportive responses than negative.

Those who don't give a crap may not be bothered to agree with the idea, but they certainly don't oppose, either. As time progresses, I think more people have come to realize that there is simply no good reason to oppose race change: it's discussion actually recalls past discussions of server change, before the devs finally implemented that.

I'd rather people spend their time improving parts of the game that more people do want; rather than invest the time into a mechanic that few people want and more people are simply apathetic towards.

[Mirage]

Now it seems like some people are again making the assumption that all game changes require the same amount of development time.

Is it really a bad idea to spend time on several small things that each are desired by just a moderate amount of players instead of spending it on one huge thing that is wanted by a bit more people?

Think of it mathematically. Assuming both can be done in roughly the same amount of development time, is 100 things where each thing is wanted by 500 players a worse idea to do than 10 things that are each wanted by 5000 players? In terms of amount of players pleased, it would be about the same.

Numbers are fictional, but I don't suppose anyone else has any actual numbers for their arguments either, so whatever.

[Llana_Virren]

Now it seems like some people are again making the assumption that all game changes require the same amount of development time.

Is it really a bad idea to spend time on several small things that each are desired by just a moderate amount of players instead of spending it on one huge thing that is wanted by a bit more people?

Think of it mathematically. Assuming both can be done in roughly the same amount of development time, is 100 things where each thing is wanted by 500 players a worse idea to do than 10 things that are each wanted by 5000 players? In terms of amount of players pleased, it would be about the same.

Numbers are fictional, but I don't suppose anyone else has any actual numbers for their arguments either, so whatever.

In order to apply mathematics you have to account for the actual man-hours spent on it, not the "players wanting versus players affected" ratio. Man-hours spent on a race-change are man-hours not spent on adjustments to NNI, adjustments to certain jobs (lolRDM), adjustments to Meeble cooldowns; adjustments for stuff still in development (*cough* SoA and new jobs *cough*), etc.

In terms of man-hours and work-to-gain, doing 1 thing that benefits 13(?) people is not the same as doing 10 things that please 5000 players.

Don't get me wrong; I think the race/gender change would be a welcomed adjustment in my book; but I'm keeping the math honest: there are more people who want lolRDM fixed than want gender changes.

[Mirage]

The amount of likes in the first post of this thread is not really worth anything in this context. How many FFXI players are registered on the forums? How many of them check it even on a weekly basis? How many of them bother to read anything but very limited portions of the forum?

The only way to get a realistic figure would be for SE to pop up a poll before logging into the game, maybe then they would get a decent enough sample size. 500 view of this thread means nothing either, considering every page load by people posting in it counts towards it, probably including every time someone edits their post as well. I think the number of unique viewers of this thread is well below 100. In that case, 13 likes is something like 10-20%.

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Point in case. I increased the view count of this thread by 3 just today alone. Whenever I check back for a reply to this post, I'll have loaded it 4 times, and if I choose to reply to that again, 5.

[Camiie]

I'd rather people spend their time improving parts of the game that more people do want; rather than invest the time into a mechanic that few people want and more people are simply apathetic towards.

But then we'd have a lot more Abyssea or Voidwatch and a lot less Legion or Neo-Nyzul. We wouldn't have 3 different types of legendary weapons a lot more kickass AH-able options. SE likes appealing to the vocal minority. They put tons of time and effort into it. Why can't they do it now? ;_;

[Shong]

13 likes of 498 views. 485 people who dislike or don't give a crap about it. And that's not counting the people that /rolleyes and didn't even bother opening the thread because it's the same thing every time. Kinda speaks for itself, doesn't it?

You Do know this topic has been brought up over 20 times in the past just cause I get 13likes don't mean people don't like it, Just means either A they too lazy to log in or B they liked it on past threads, But likes alone don't tell if people support something.

[svengalis]

13 likes of 498 views. 485 people who dislike or don't give a crap about it. And that's not counting the people that /rolleyes and didn't even bother opening the thread because it's the same thing every time. Kinda speaks for itself, doesn't it?

There has been at least 10 threads made about this all with 10+ likes.

[Mirage]

And you don't think it might be a lot of the same people pressing that like button?

That said, I'm for it, just because it would mean I could change the hair color of my mithra. I would naturally never change my race.

[Arbalest]

I am positive very few people will wanna do this. It would cost money. It would also cause considerable stress due to peer pressure and LS management forcing people to change their race to better fit their designated job.

Of course it's going to cost money. The game isn't F2P, after all, and SE needs to find new ways to make players happy, and to make money. That being said, I'm sure it'd be too much of a bother for the game to convert one set of racial stats to another set - it'd more than likely be purely cosmetic, and have no effect on the game itself. Of course, SE is 'looking into it'; that means they're never going to give us an answer on the subject, but if they do it won't be for several years.

I've been clamoring for something like a race change option for quite a while. I'm not expecting anything amazing from SE, though.

So..