In all honesty, we low man just about everything we do. My sam, in crappy perle gear and a dnc that is new to the game and is still learning the ropes(she sort of powerleveled two jobs to 90 since starting in september) tank most of the abyssea NMs for the +1 seals. We need to bounce hate to do this effectively, and let's be honest here. She's in crappy gear and still learning to play. So if I were to be decked out in massive sam kick the mob into next week gear, I'd be tanking constantly. My whm would murder me. I'll deal with the Perle while she's learning her way around(she's learning fast) and work on the empyrean +1 and +2 sets while doing so. Then we'll see just how much I can teach a tank in less than a yearTypically when I'm in alliance fights I'm on whm anyhow. So no one really gets a shot at dissing my gear choices lol. I can assure you, the whm is pimped out. Working on +2ing the new set, but anything that could be obtained for whm prior to abyssea, I have or I have something better now. Already got the whm set +1'd.