Full Perle

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Perle is associated with noobs because there are hordes of people wearing it on the jobs that it isn't the best "bridge" gear for. If you can wear b haidate as an example then the second you put that perle on you're weakening yourself. Byakko has been a soloable job since lv 80 for some people so by lv 90 you are bound to have at least some friends that can help if you're willing to drag your butt to sky.
There are also hordes of noobs that don't bother wearing the full set so not only did they weaken themselves by putting perle on but they didn't even bother to put the last piece on that does something more than whatever sucky piece they decided to wear instead.

You're talking about getting gear that a lot of people don't have access too compaired to something that is basically free and readily available.

[Greatguardian]

You're talking about getting gear that a lot of people don't have access too compaired to something that is basically free and readily available.

AF3+2 not being sold by a vendor does not make Perle good gear. It's already been mentioned that it is passable at best for new/returning players. However, it's not something to get comfortable in. It is bad gear. It is better than being naked, but you want to get out of it ASAP. Considering all AF3+1 can be solo'd in Quests if someone doesn't have the playtime to kill the NMs, there's really no reason to advocate Perle.

I shouldn't need to tell anyone wearing Perle that Perle is crap. They should know that it is crap, and be on their way to replace it. I highly doubt anyone, even on BG, would fault players who are actively working on better gear. It's only people who stop, settle with Perle, and decide that it's "good enough for them" that get ragged on.

[Harpalina]

AF3+2 not being sold by a vendor does not make Perle good gear. It's already been mentioned that it is passable at best for new/returning players. However, it's not something to get comfortable in. It is bad gear. It is better than being naked, but you want to get out of it ASAP. Considering all AF3+1 can be solo'd in Quests if someone doesn't have the playtime to kill the NMs, there's really no reason to advocate Perle.

I shouldn't need to tell anyone wearing Perle that Perle is crap. They should know that it is crap, and be on their way to replace it. I highly doubt anyone, even on BG, would fault players who are actively working on better gear. It's only people who stop, settle with Perle, and decide that it's "good enough for them" that get ragged on.

I agree to a certain degree. Perle shouldn't be advocated to be the best gear, but the stats aren't half bad. They're excellent in the 78-80 range. Maybe even a little higher than that. Yeah everyone should strive to get the AF3+1's or +2's but I don't think you should be admonished for wearing Perle/Teal/Aurore gear. Like I have mentioned earlier, I'm wearing 2 to 3 pieces of the gear, mostly due to gear swapping of WS mods. And if a player doesn't have the means to solo every seal for all five pieces of their AF3's, then they don't have the means. Does it make them nooby? Not in the least. But I do agree that being complacent is where noobishness hits; one should always strive to be better.

[TearValerin]

I agree to a certain degree. Perle shouldn't be advocated to be the best gear, but the stats aren't half bad. They're excellent in the 78-80 range. Maybe even a little higher than that. Yeah everyone should strive to get the AF3+1's or +2's but I don't think you should be admonished for wearing Perle/Teal/Aurore gear. Like I have mentioned earlier, I'm wearing 2 to 3 pieces of the gear, mostly due to gear swapping of WS mods. And if a player doesn't have the means to solo every seal for all five pieces of their AF3's, then they don't have the means. Does it make them nooby? Not in the least. But I do agree that being complacent is where noobishness hits; one should always strive to be better.

To me, yes it does make them noobish, because anyone can go out and get a shout group to get your AF done. I went around thinking it was difficult without a proper LS, and was proven wrong. I now have a full set of +1 or 2 AF3 for my jobs, from shout groups, and being a big boy rather than sitting around and complaining its too hard.

[Harpalina]

To me, yes it does make them noobish, because anyone can go out and get a shout group to get your AF done. I went around thinking it was difficult without a proper LS, and was proven wrong. I now have a full set of +1 or 2 AF3 for my jobs, from shout groups, and being a big boy rather than sitting around and complaining its too hard.

Well, to each his/her own. I don't base a player solely on ones' accomplishments (i.e. gear.), but more so on how they play their character. I try not to make petty judgments.

[TearValerin]

Well, to each his/her own. I don't base a player solely on ones' accomplishments (i.e. gear.), but more so on how they play their character. I try not to make petty judgments.

About 3 weeks ago, I was in a La Theine worms alliance. There were 12 melee DDs, each wearing pre 75 equipment, or full cruor set, and 1 drg with a few pieces AF3, and AF2+1. Her Drakesbane outparsed the party by 65%. When you have 6-8 DDs spamming their strongest WS to kill one worm, yet the drg next to you is soloing that worm, we have a problem. Lazy DDs are bad DDs. If they make excuses for not having at least the next best thing (like a thf wearing 50s daggers because he thought they looked cool, or mnk using afflictors for same reason) then they are no good to me.

[Harpalina]

About 3 weeks ago, I was in a La Theine worms alliance. There were 12 melee DDs, each wearing pre 75 equipment, or full cruor set, and 1 drg with a few pieces AF3, and AF2+1. Her Drakesbane outparsed the party by 65%. When you have 6-8 DDs spamming their strongest WS to kill one worm, yet the drg next to you is soloing that worm, we have a problem. Lazy DDs are bad DDs. If they make excuses for not having at least the next best thing (like a thf wearing 50s daggers because he thought they looked cool, or mnk using afflictors for same reason) then they are no good to me.

I'm sure Atma played a role too. And I'm not saying a LV 50 weapon on a LV 90 character should be worn, no matter how uber the stats might be. My point is 78 gear on a 90 isn't that far of a stretch. It's only a 12 level difference. And again, the stats aren't horrible. I'm not advocating full perle is end all be all. I've never worn full perle myself, but to completely dismiss someone just because of their gear is a little superficial. And if they have good atmas, then it balances things out, in my opinion.

[Harpalina]

And also another thing to add, I would rather take someone who has full Perle gear and can perform their job well, than someone with full AF3+2 thinking their sh*t don't stink and treat other players like crap.