Final Fantasy XI PS3 Version

[oliveira]

And you're not understanding what I'm saying. FF14 won't be utilizing SEN, it will be utilizing SE's own authentication servers, and these servers will not let you in without a legit product key, like the one you needed to register your FF11 account with.

You that are purposely ignoring the fact that I am saying people will trojan the console and hack the game regardless of it using SEN or not to be played.

[Mirage]

You that are purposely ignoring the fact that I am saying people will trojan the console and hack the game regardless of it using SEN or not to be played.

How exactly is the risk of this happening any greater than it is with the PC client of the game? You don't need to circumvent any security measures in the operating system or hardware of your PC to do the same to the FF14 client.

You've already got full access to it, and any FF14 client hacking could be done with a piece of software alone, no need to change firmware or anything like you'd need to on a PS3. How exactly is the PS3 client for FF14 at a greater risk of getting hacked than the PC version of the client?

There's no reason why the risk of this happening on the PS3 would stop them from releasing it for the PS3, when the same risk exists for the PC client, yet they are definitely making it for that platform.

Now if you know something that I don't know about this that would make me wrong, you should bring that up, because I'll admit to being wrong if that was the case. So far, however, there's nothing of what you've written that would indicate that the PS3 client is at a great risk of getting hacked compared to the PC client, and nothing that would make it likely for SE to not release a PS3 client.

[oliveira]

The problem on closed platforms such as the PS3 is that the game companies rely on the security provided by the system itself. On Windows even the data files are somehow encrypted, memory is isolated, processes are concealed or at best the game can complain about a debugger being loaded on memory while the game is run. On a console that kind of protection isn't available as it's not needed (a legitimate console will only accept signed code).

PS3 had all of it's older private signing keys made publicly available, which ruins the security for the platform. SONY responded by whitelisting things that were signed with the compromised keys, making it impossible to use the leaked keys to sign new stuff that would be accepted by the PS3 OS.

Now that the last bastion of security on the PS3 OS fell apart, hackers could put malicious code (cheat engine) on the OS kernel and take control of the game process.

The argument is:

What is the point of going through the hassle of supporting the PS3 now that it will risk the product (game) of more hacking, the PS3 will be scrapped soon enough (It will be dead in two years from now since it has been completely hacked) as it became the next PSP and SONY already has a platform almost ready to replace it ?

What you think ?

[Mirage]

The problem on closed platforms such as the PS3 is that the game companies rely on the security provided by the system itself. On Windows even the data files are somehow encrypted, memory is isolated, processes are concealed or at best the game can complain about a debugger being loaded on memory while the game is run. On a console that kind of protection isn't available as it's not needed (a legitimate console will only accept signed code).

PS3 had all of it's older private signing keys made publicly available, which ruins the security for the platform. SONY responded by whitelisting things that were signed with the compromised keys, making it impossible to use the leaked keys to sign new stuff that would be accepted by the PS3 OS.

Now that the last bastion of security on the PS3 OS fell apart, hackers could put malicious code (cheat engine) on the OS kernel and take control of the game process.

The argument is:

What is the point of going through the hassle of supporting the PS3 now that it will risk the product (game) of more hacking, the PS3 will be scrapped soon enough (It will be dead in two years from now since it has been completely hacked) as it became the next PSP and SONY already has a platform almost ready to replace it ?

What you think ?

I think they'll release it as planned.

You say the sort of protection the PC version gets isn't available on PS3 because it has never been needed before. Now that it is needed, isn't is possible that they will implement the same security measures on the PS3 version as they did on the PC version.

I also think that if the PS3 is dead within two years, it's more because it's already an 8 year old console at that point, and therefore near the end of its life cycle and ready to be replaced regardless of the security situation.

[Laraul]

What is the point of going through the hassle of supporting the PS3 now that it will risk the product (game) of more hacking, the PS3 will be scrapped soon enough (It will be dead in two years from now since it has been completely hacked) as it became the next PSP and SONY already has a platform almost ready to replace it ?What you think ?

Security isn't an issue with the PS3. Sure you can hack it. You can hack anything. But if you are going to hack something, hack the platform that's the most open (i.e. Windows). I don't understand what you are saying at all.

[Luvbunny]

They should just go with free to play honestly, I mean it seems like they are adopting this strategy with the IOs apps, giving it to you for free and then nickel and dime you for premium price if you want the full experience. Resulting in some of the most expensive IOs games ever released. Which probably not a bad idea, since we can pick and choose which additional content we want to access. Certainly most of us will not even care about Legion, Neo Nyzul, Neo Einherjar, Neo Limbus, and Meeble Burrows and probably would save tons of money if it were free to play and just pick the contents you like to do the most. This also force them to actually make a good sellable contents and not half ass attempt at creating hold over type of contents. Bad contents = low sales.

[Mirabelle]

Personally would like a FFXI Mac OSX version. Rather not separate the HD out for a windows partition just to play FFXI on my laptop.

[Luvbunny]

We are lucky they still making the Xbox version.... If they are not even porting it to PS3 and WiiU, or Vita or DS3, chances are they are not porting it anywhere but keep it as PC version only - and Xbox +PS2 (in japan only).

[Ryanx]

PS3 version of the game would be nice

[Llama]

A while back SE, stated they liked the idea off FFXI running on the PSP Vita. Seeing how Sony is losing money on VITA's as is, I doubt we'll ever see PS3 or PSPV version. Too bad, I'd love to play FFXI on a handheld.