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    Player wish12oz's Avatar
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    My LS has beaten Rex+Gallu with a bunch of Ukons, and Mul T2+T3 is the only place the -crit trait exists. You dont have to have Ragnaroks, its just that a bunch of WARs with Ragnarok will do the most damage during the event.

    The mantis is obnoxious, and generally results in killing people, but I would hate for them to take that out, as thats the sort of thing that sets good groups apart from bad groups. Having melees who know not to point it at mages and not stand together, so that only 1-2 die, then being able to recover from deaths and still win. It doesn't always work out in your favor, but thats half the fun I think. Steam rolling all content laid before you gets a bit old after awhile, it's nice to have something where only truely dedicated groups can win, and even then they fail sometimes.

    You say you have 2 Legion groups and neither can get 18? Why not just combine the two groups?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post

    While this is a legitimate concern, Legion is simply not designed to work this way. It was meant to be cleared with a familiar group of friends, who will stick around and work together to improve at the event and eventually clear it. This pretty much means LS events, possibly with strangers on less demanding jobs to fill in the gaps.
    This is exactly the point I was talking about earlier, that current NA population is just too small to do this sort of thing(core member that stick together to learn, must have super situational gears just for this event, specific job/gear set) if it requires 18/18.

    I can get 18/18 people from my LS or close friends, but it's not going to be a good setup because some of them doesn't have correct job/gear requirement. If I'm going to just select people with right job and fits gear requirement, then at very best it's only 12~15 people. Not to mention all that people come and go. Some of the player with legion experience will leave after they got bored/sick of it or get everything they want, leaving new members need to relearn everything again.

    Maybe it's not a JP problem, or problem with bigger LS. But at this point of time, probably 95% of NA and EU LS isn't going to be big enough I believe. Event like this should be around 12 players or less, so it's easier to get a group of core members that stick together. 18 is just simply too big number for majority of the NA and EU LS IMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    You say you have 2 Legion groups and neither can get 18? Why not just combine the two groups?
    Just point system and different lotting rules can cause enough drama, I've been trying to get some of the people from different groups, but it's not exactly easy since they're not going to get enough benefit by jumping groups, your point start from scratch if you jump group, and many people at this point of time got most of the items besides rare drop anyways, so there really isn't enough interest to jump group either. Most of the people will downright say "no" to another group if they know that everyone else in that group has higher point to lot items. This also apply to a lot of new member that interested in legion but never done it, at this point of time not everyone is interested in sticking with an event group for weeks and months to build up enough points to lot items.


    Also, regarding the mantis, it's more of a gambling rather than something requiring skill/pt organization. Unless someone can point out a way to have 0 death rate without having specific gear set thats only useful in legion. I do not want to have 1~2 DD died from mantis, I don't want any DD die from it, and whether it's going to have death or not it's just nothing but gambling atm.

    As stated before, if you can stun it fast enough, then you should be able to stun it, instead of having to gamble that stun would land or having to spend time to build another gear set JUST for this mob.
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    Last edited by Afania; 10-03-2012 at 11:24 PM.