I can confirm that the trigger proc can cause a discernment message if it's dirty.
I had to trigger Red Lotus Blade because we got a hint of a Fire weaponskill weakness for red. Obviously, Red Lotus Blade is the only possible fire trigger for red.
I used RLB but Sharabha decided to start casting Stoneja at that time. RLB was dirty, but I still got the "The fiend appears to be vulnerable to Fire Elemental weaponskills!"
My next one was clean and caused the trigger.
I don't think you misread. They said that you can't get a hint off the correct spell, which is false:
For Voidwatch however, this is true, simply because in VW a spell cannot be dirty. So you will always proc if it's the correct spell, and I don't think you can get a hint while you're staggering a mob (I am very sure of this).
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FFXI: Leviathan > Arcon
FFXIV: Selbina > Arcon Villiers
I have had countless, COUNTLESS instances in Abyssea of using the correct ws but having it dirty, and not once has it ever produced a discernment message when that happens. Not ONCE. And I've seen several atmas drop from mobs without red procs, so I am no stranger to rare Abyssea happenings. So I am also calling POIDH here, tbh
I'm pretty sure I've heard BLUs complain that their spells will not proc if the spell has an added effect which fails to land on the mob. I never like playing BLU in VW though so I can't cite any sort of personal experience there.For Voidwatch however, this is true, simply because in VW a spell cannot be dirty.
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FFXI: Leviathan > Arcon
FFXIV: Selbina > Arcon Villiers
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