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    Player Orenwald's Avatar
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    Regarding Kannagis

    I finished the Lv85 version back at the end of January, and I have to ask...

    Am I the only one still having repeat nightmares about farming Sobek? ;_;

    It's a great weapon though. yummy yummy. If you don't have one, get one XD
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    Player Faule's Avatar
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    Nightmares about farming Sobek? No, they are replaced with Apedemak.
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    Faule -- Quetz
    Langly -- Ninja land (it's a place don't look at me like that)

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    Player KataroCerb's Avatar
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    I'm dreading getting my last 23 skins, always at least 2 other groups there. The issue really isn't Sobek though, it's Gukumatz. I can get 5 people KI sets from Minax and Sirrush in like 30-40min tops, then you have to spend an hr or more trying to get claims on Guk. A TON of people seem to be botting it from everything I can see. GUk is the one giving me nightmares lol.
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    Last edited by KataroCerb; 03-20-2011 at 04:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faule View Post
    Nightmares about farming Sobek? No, they are replaced with Apedemak.
    This ^

    I'm actually struggling to get a solid kill on this thing. Any tips? 7/75 horns
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    Player Orenwald's Avatar
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    Ha, I haven't even started with Apedemak yet. /procrastination
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    Guku was the only nightmare about emp katna. Glad thats over. 75 horns meh seems like alot of work for a few more dmg
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    Obtained Emp Katana 3 hours before server shutdown. =(

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    Player Orenwald's Avatar
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    well, it's a few more DMG and 2 and a half Evasion... sooooooo worth it... probably not. /procrastination
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    While on this thread, (I am still working on mine) I wouldn't mind your opinion. I will do tests myself when the time comes to it however for gear regarding Blade: Hi :-

    Soil Gorget vs. Arctier's torque

    I know elemental gorgets are said to increase the damage of single hits especially, however would the +6 AGI (Blade: Hi having only an AGI modifier) be better?

    The set I am starting to gather while my static are doing other things gives me around +82 AGI not including the added AGI from weapons. (Probably eva Sekka & Kannagi, depending on the situation). I was basically wondering what modifier numbers you guys are hitting, and from experience with Blade: Hi, have you noticed if modifiers > attk/crit hit etc?

    (Not sure if we are allowed to post links here but: http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/201904 for my set)

    Would love to hear your opinions.
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    Last edited by Alderin; 03-19-2011 at 02:16 AM.

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    I would think the iga neck would be best since it has increase in crit hit dmg on it. and Blade: Hi is crit hit
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    Last edited by Logical; 03-19-2011 at 05:49 AM. Reason: spellin

    Obtained Emp Katana 3 hours before server shutdown. =(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alderin View Post
    While on this thread, (I am still working on mine) I wouldn't mind your opinion. I will do tests myself when the time comes to it however for gear regarding Blade: Hi :-

    Soil Gorget vs. Arctier's torque

    I know elemental gorgets are said to increase the damage of single hits especially, however would the +6 AGI (Blade: Hi having only an AGI modifier) be better?

    The set I am starting to gather while my static are doing other things gives me around +82 AGI not including the added AGI from weapons. (Probably eva Sekka & Kannagi, depending on the situation). I was basically wondering what modifier numbers you guys are hitting, and from experience with Blade: Hi, have you noticed if modifiers > attk/crit hit etc?

    (Not sure if we are allowed to post links here but: http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/201904 for my set)

    Would love to hear your opinions.
    Comparing the gains between torque and gorget isn't too bad, I'll math it out for you so you can see what to do in the future. Let's assume you have 80 base AGI, and you said you had +82 in gear (assuming this is without the neck slot). I'll math for inside Abyssea because, frankly, it's a lot easier.

    Blade: Hi is a 1-hit (2 with the offhand) 4.0 fTP WS with a 60% AGI WSC. Kannagi 85 is a D:52 weapon. Looking at +40 AGI from Cruor buffs, +50 from Gnarled Horn, +82 in gear without neck, and 80 base, you'd have 252 AGI in WS.

    (252 * 0.6)(.85) = 128 WSC. Add that to Kannagi's base 52 Damage and you get D: 180 for WS.

    Increasing your fTP from 5.0 (this is 4.0 + 1.0 from the offhand hit) to 5.1 is a 2% increase in damage.

    Increasing your WSC from 128 to ([258 * .6 = 154](.85) + 52 = 182) is a 1.11% increase in damage.

    In this case, Gorget would be better than Arctier's torque. If you were to add more AGI to your build, Gorget would win by a larger margin. Conversely, if you started taking away AGI from that build, Arctier's Torque may eventually overtake Gorget. I think it's fairly safe to say that Arctier's would win outside Abyssea as well. (Edit: Assuming the Accuracy is still a non-issue)

    Side Note: Kamome is probably your best in slot offhand at any time inside Abyssea. Outside, I think the line blurs a bit more between Kamome and AGI Sekka+2. I haven't done much math on it for outside, personally. Adding a Qirmiz Tathlum would also cap your Crit Dmg+ on WS with Razed Ruins, I would grab one of those when you get the chance.

    Edit: Fixed to account for Alpha because I fail. The gap widens, Gorget should win by a fair margin.
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    Last edited by Greatguardian; 03-19-2011 at 07:47 AM.

    I will have my revenge!

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