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  1. #11
    Player Rambus's Avatar
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    Collecting all 8 ws belts and making it into one would be nice too.

    Combining all the obi's gorgets and staffs has been talked about a very long time, the 8 staff thing is really old for blm talks, i am shocked they ac tally did it finally.

    maybe 4 years from now all this will happen too.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nala View Post
    Eh drop the res all and just make it occ nullify magic damage instead of absorb? idk an ammo slot piece that could absorb all would be kind of broken... then again having 8 is detrimental in that you have to reset your tp to make use of them.

    In any case +10 to resistance wouldnt be OP by comparison to a combined main effect since no one really makes res all builds in favor of MDT, that and at higher MDT you see diminished returns on MDB and resistance gear.
    The ammo items also have base stat boosts on them. Also, you don't lose TP when changing non-consumable ammo. Not when changing consumable ammo for bows/guns/crossbows either.

    And while -MDT gear is more reliable in that it always decreases damage, there is still situational use for resist gear coupled with barspells for enemies that favor a single element. Getting 50% resists commonly is pretty useful if you are in situations with limited healing power.
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    Last edited by Mirage; 09-28-2012 at 12:52 AM.

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    Yes. This. Combine stuff. Combine all the super-situational elemental stuff!

    I'd be willing to make no small investment to combine my elemental obis and gorgets and belts into one inventory slot each, if that were possible.
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    Support bump!

    Belts, obis, gorgets, satchets, grips.. all could easily be condensed into one item.
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    lets see if we can get more support for this. my elemental obis are getting dusty... ultimately i'd eventually like to see this lead to grips and maybe elemental staves of same type (ToM nuking staves and only staves of similar elemental sort because the time investment into making one of those staves is ridiculous.
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    There should definitely be a way to combine magian staves of different elements but otherwise the same boosts. If not a complete merge to one single staff (this would be ideal), we should at the very least be able to combine the "aligned" elements to one. Light, fire, thunder and wind in one single staff, darkness, earth, water and ice in another single staff.

    If SE really thinks about this, they'll see that this will actually make people grind more than they currently do, which would lead to people playing longer! While I wouldn't be interested in making both a darkness and ice staff for my sch (I'd stop at ice), if I could combine all those 4 elements to one single staff, I would probably end up making all four of them just so I could combine them.

    Likewise, allowing us to combine obis and gorgets would give players a strong incentive to spend time in Sea to farm all the organs for every single obi and gorget, instead of just... idk, personally I have 3 obis and 4 gorgets. If they were combinable, I would make all of them.

    Look, SE! People are begging you for a reason to spend days grinding. How can you possibly resist? We all know how much you love to see us grind!
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    I thought that is what Iridescence did. They didn't include the obis in the effect?
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    Iridiscence is a completely different effect than the elemental obis grant. It simply gives you a chance of an even bigger boost under appropriate weather conditions, making it more beneficial to have obis when you also have access to weather spells (or are in an area with a guaranteed weather). You still need to get the obis normally though, with all the inventory space they have always taken.
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    Oh i dont think i want to make 4 more gorgets... Eh, worth it.

    Got my support here. Though if theyre too much it could be done in just a 50/50 condense again of light and dark aligned pieces. I mean id love an all in one, but if deemed too powerful then id just have to live with an all in two. That said, both ideas could be used, from taking the light/dark aligned atributes, and fusing them in stages to ensure grinding again, assuming its a reasonable task. Id think an exp related trial similar to dynamis pieces would be ideal for this. Like lets look at the gorgets for a moment.

    Taking a "Light Gorget" and a "Flame Gorget" to...well lets use the job-emote moogle, he doesnt get much love or attentionm anyway~ Lets say you inscribe each with a 20,000EXP trial, requiring the piece to be equipped. Thats 40,000EXP and upon finishing both, trading them in would reward a "Fusion Gorget." The new item being a clear reference to skillchains. Now how about some math!

    Light Gorget 20,000EXP-----\
    ----------------------------------= Fusion Gorget 20,000EXP------\
    Flame Gorget 20,000EXP----/----------------------------------------\
    -------------------------------------------- Solus Gorget (Net total 120,000EXP)
    Thunder Gorget 20,000EXP\-----------------------------------------/
    -------------------------------= Fragmentation Gorget 20,000EXP/
    Breeze Gorget 20,000EXP-/

    Now if that were further combined, you would be looking at another 40,000EXP to combine the "Solus Gorget" with a "Lunus Gorget" to make the final product, "Eclypse Gorget." which by that point would have required a total of 280,000EXP or 28 merits for those who like it simplified. So beyond needing to exchange items to get the first gorgets/obis and fights for belts, to make all of them into 3 slots instead of 28, a single player would need to have invested 840,000EXP. Thats 160,000EXP shy of a MILLION exp.

    While id like a simpler path mind you, this provides a reasonable way to make the item we desire and allows the developers a good way make players earn the desired result, and prevent the task from being completed too quickly, even via abyssea if that is allowed as a location to perform the task.
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    Last edited by Crimson_Slasher; 10-12-2012 at 09:13 PM. Reason: Formatting adjustment

  10. #20
    Player VraeliaRDM's Avatar
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    I accept! More inventory space <Can I have it?> <please>
    If they did this for the Elemental staves, I see no real reason why they can't do it with all the elemental stuff.
    SEs are pros right? They can do it! :P

    +1 to Supporting this.
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