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    Suggestion for 99 relics

    Can we please get more gradual progressions through the level 99 relics, for example with Excalibur we could have:

    Excalibur 99-i = 5 marrows
    Excalibur 99-ii = 10 marrows
    Excalibur 99-iii = 15 Marrows
    Excalibur 99-iv = 20 ...
    (etc, each progressively getting stronger each stage - these are just hypothetical numbers)

    It seems like the current jump is to say, "if you obtain a 99-2 relic, your weapon will be as strong as it will ever be - and you'll never advance it further in FFXI's future"... is that the case? Isn't there a new expansion coming out - are we to logically conclude that either a.) the relics will become obsolete - or b.) that the new content will be still suited for those same items (equally challenging to current content)?

    So to be clear, what I'm suggesting is that there be additional level 99 relic stages to what there are now (only 2), and that the stages be achievable (not as outlandish as they are now) and rewarding (but within sensible reason). Smaller increments of more gradual rewards would be a more enjoyable play experience.
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    Last edited by Oakrest; 09-21-2012 at 01:15 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by the Advent Children

    Sephiroth: Tell me what you cherish most... give me the pleasure of taking it away.
    Cloud: You just don't get it at all... there's not a thing I don't cherish.

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    This is exactly how the afterglow stage of the 99 relics work, there's just no third stage. First stage relic lv 99 is 5 marrows. Afterglow is 250.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonlord View Post
    This is exactly how the afterglow stage of the 99 relics work, there's just no third stage. First stage relic lv 99 is 5 marrows. Afterglow is 250.
    Oh interesting, I thought they were two separate paths. Thanks for the info.

    I'm going to try and update my OP to cut to the deeper problem then...
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    Last edited by Oakrest; 09-19-2012 at 08:21 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by the Advent Children

    Sephiroth: Tell me what you cherish most... give me the pleasure of taking it away.
    Cloud: You just don't get it at all... there's not a thing I don't cherish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakrest View Post
    Oh interesting, I thought they were two separate paths. Thanks for the info.

    Still seems they could be broken into more/smaller gradients - its such a big leap from 5 to 250!
    Excalibur 99-1 = 50 marrows
    Excalibur 99-2 = 80 marrows
    Excalibur 99-3 = 125 Marrows

    There you go fixed! ^^b
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    Well really either way it doesn't matter. If you make an afterglow, I label you as an idiot on the spot, no matter who you are how good you are. Adding more trials to this to make it take longer would make no difference, Afterglow was put in as a bragging right which is stupid by the amount of selfishness, greed, and stupidity, required to make one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Well really either way it doesn't matter. If you make an afterglow, I label you as an idiot on the spot, no matter who you are how good you are. Adding more trials to this to make it take longer would make no difference, Afterglow was put in as a bragging right which is stupid by the amount of selfishness, greed, and stupidity, required to make one.
    But if you had a 99-1 relic, you're exponentially more likely to make the next stage if it is not an unfair step. Steps should be a bit more like a staircase.. some consistency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the Advent Children

    Sephiroth: Tell me what you cherish most... give me the pleasure of taking it away.
    Cloud: You just don't get it at all... there's not a thing I don't cherish.

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    If the stats actually improved, perhaps. Afterglow is nothing more than worthless in most cases, meaning its no upgrade at all.
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    I came in expecting that perhaps the suggestion would be along the lines of:

    "Replace the crappy(for most relics anyway) ws with a new higher tiered version that doesn't suck!"

    But back on topic, afterglow is silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekin View Post
    I came in expecting that perhaps the suggestion would be along the lines of:

    "Replace the crappy(for most relics anyway) ws with a new higher tiered version that doesn't suck!"

    But back on topic, afterglow is silly.
    Yea it really is, I guess my point is that there should be way more steps to progress through and gradual rewards on the way - that way lots of people will be at lots of different stages - rather than just one massive upwards curve before the next available reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the Advent Children

    Sephiroth: Tell me what you cherish most... give me the pleasure of taking it away.
    Cloud: You just don't get it at all... there's not a thing I don't cherish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    If the stats actually improved, perhaps. Afterglow is nothing more than worthless in most cases, meaning its no upgrade at all.
    Yea exactly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by the Advent Children

    Sephiroth: Tell me what you cherish most... give me the pleasure of taking it away.
    Cloud: You just don't get it at all... there's not a thing I don't cherish.

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