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    They'd need the same amount of investigation to find out if they are really RMT, and it's finding the evidence that takes time, not banning/moving. I'm sure they canban thousands of accounts in just seconds after they have flagged them as confirmed RMT accounts.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    They'd need the same amount of investigation to find out if they are really RMT, and it's finding the evidence that takes time, not banning/moving. I'm sure they canban thousands of accounts in just seconds after they have flagged them as confirmed RMT accounts.
    If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and smells like a duck. It's probably a DUCK.
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  3. #113
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    Hello Folks,

    In some of the posts, you mentioned that there are trial accounts that are abusing the Auction House system. I passed this information onto our Special Task Force and they are interested in this possible exploit.

    What I would ask is that if there are customers who you suspect to be using this possible exploit to submit a /helpdesk call. In the detail box place the following:

    Trial Account RMT AH Abuse: PlayerName

    I will instruct my GM team to pass these names onto to the SGM team; we will then forward the names to our Special Task Force. Please do not post the names in this thread as it may be looked at as a rule violation.

    We understand that some people have said this is not possible, but we want to ensure that there are no exploits to be found; it never hurts to double check.

    Thank you, again.

    SGM Jhanaka
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhanaka View Post
    Hello Folks,

    In some of the posts, you mentioned that there are trial accounts that are abusing the Auction House system. I passed this information onto our Special Task Force and they are interested in this possible exploit.

    What I would ask is that if there are customers who you suspect to be using this possible exploit to submit a /helpdesk call. In the detail box place the following:

    Trial Account RMT AH Abuse: PlayerName

    I will instruct my GM team to pass these names onto to the SGM team; we will then forward the names to our Special Task Force. Please do not post the names in this thread as it may be looked at as a rule violation.

    We understand that some people have said this is not possible, but we want to ensure that there are no exploits to be found; it never hurts to double check.

    Thank you, again.

    SGM Jhanaka
    Jhanaka, it's not REALLY trial accounts as SE calls them. The trial accounts are the ones where players buy codes online for pennies and get about a month of full access. I don't think it's the characters with those little flags over their heads.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jhanaka View Post
    We understand that some people have said this is not possible, but we want to ensure that there are no exploits to be found; it never hurts to double check.
    Speaking from experience on other hacked online MMOS players exploited flaws in the clients. If the trial limitations are based on client alterable flags the limits placed on them are moot. I mean if the local client simply turns off menu options on accounts that have trial flags YOU HAVE A SERIOUS security risk. To put it simple If the lock isn't server side it might as well not even be there. I don't know if this is the case or not but it'd be the first thing to check from a security perspective.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhanaka View Post
    Hello Folks,

    In some of the posts, you mentioned that there are trial accounts that are abusing the Auction House system. I passed this information onto our Special Task Force and they are interested in this possible exploit.

    What I would ask is that if there are customers who you suspect to be using this possible exploit to submit a /helpdesk call. In the detail box place the following:

    Trial Account RMT AH Abuse: PlayerName

    I will instruct my GM team to pass these names onto to the SGM team; we will then forward the names to our Special Task Force. Please do not post the names in this thread as it may be looked at as a rule violation.

    We understand that some people have said this is not possible, but we want to ensure that there are no exploits to be found; it never hurts to double check.

    Thank you, again.

    SGM Jhanaka
    Half the player posters here would probably flag me as being suspicious. I do a lot of VWNM and Aby stuff and build cruor on my one and only active character, then turn around and convert it into Gil which I use to buy currencies (to be more precise, I solo farm and purchase currencies to finish incomplete stacks) for my first ever Relic.

    So I have two suggestions.

    First, be careful you aren't banning legitimate players who might not be able to make money in other ways.

    Second, find ways to help legitimate players to make Gil. Seriously, this is is one of the most annoying aspects of the game that has been a deterrent for me and other players like me. I'm glad cruor exists to be exploited in this fashion, otherwise I'd still be stuck at less then 500,000 Gil.
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  6. #116
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    Easier gil is to make, the higher the prices will become for the expensive things. Basically if you have 10k, and the uber gear you want is 100k, you have 10%, however with easy to get gil you have 1Mil, while your uber gear is 100Mil. This is at least how I see it.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Easier gil is to make, the higher the prices will become for the expensive things. Basically if you have 10k, and the uber gear you want is 100k, you have 10%, however with easy to get gil you have 1Mil, while your uber gear is 100Mil. This is at least how I see it.
    You also have to factor supply and demand. For example Fire Geodes, less people burning exp in Abyssea or working on fire trials who need gil (despite needing the geodes down the line themselves) all means smaller supply while the demand hasn't changed much.
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    Based on the tells I get gil in the last few months has gone from $8/1M to $6/1M. You could make the logical assumption that because gil is so easy to make for RMT they are dropping the prices to increase appeal. There's also the logic that people have finally realized how easy it is to make gil and are now using said methods. Then there's the logic that because a majority of the uber gear is Rare/Ex and few people are selling, and those that are run the risk of being accused of cheating by others (at least as it related to NNI).

    All this really adds up to at this point for me is RMT may still be here but the game has reached a point where their effects are minimal at best. Now all I'm worried about are legit players getting caught in the mix because they converted too many Choboco Blinkers at one time, or some other stupid mix up.
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  8. #118
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    Imo there is a clear sign when RMTs are doing blinker runs, when they are naked, randomly named, and in large numbers. Large numbers are the easiest sign, no normal player really does this, random names are more common, just because some people do choose names that are not normal, and most common is naked player characters. I agree RMTs have little effect most likely, but I doubt many players are caught in the crossfire, and if players are being caught up in it like that, then SE should be a bit better on investigating things.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Imo there is a clear sign when RMTs are doing blinker runs, when they are naked, randomly named, and in large numbers. Large numbers are the easiest sign, no normal player really does this, random names are more common, just because some people do choose names that are not normal, and most common is naked player characters. I agree RMTs have little effect most likely, but I doubt many players are caught in the crossfire, and if players are being caught up in it like that, then SE should be a bit better on investigating things.
    -Any- legitimate player doing a blinker run will be naked- you need the max available inventory space to make it time-efficient.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Easier gil is to make, the higher the prices will become for the expensive things. Basically if you have 10k, and the uber gear you want is 100k, you have 10%, however with easy to get gil you have 1Mil, while your uber gear is 100Mil. This is at least how I see it.
    More evidence that the average player doesn't know the first thing about economics.

    People can't spend money if they can't make money. That simple.
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