question for GM's

[Annahya]

The AH is full of obscure, outdated gear that is sold for ridiculous amounts of gil. I've been noticing this quite often the last few weeks, just looking at random items on ffxiah.com. Typically, the items are all very slow sales, usually less than one sale every couple of months, but then suddenly you have three people buying them for 10 millions, and their names are always some keyboardslam-like name.

I'm sure SE is aware of these anomalities, though. I can't imagine it being hard to detect with automated scripts/programs/whatever.

On Bismarck, I have been seeing a good number of people with Onion Weapons in their Bazaar for tens of millions of gil, wandering about the Port Sandy MH. I am not sure if this is the same thing that is happening with RMT at the AH, but that was the first thing that came to mind when I saw it.

[Secondplanet]

One time while fishing i saw a person with /anon and 4 lu shangs in their bazaar and it wasn't like the had them at 99999~ it was at what they cost to buy of AH and they were fishing up more moat carps in perfect timing each time only catching moat carps.

I filed the paperwork to send to the STF and even did a GM call, person was there for the next 3 weeks fishing non-stop. Eventually that person went away i guess and then a new person was fishing with 5 lu shangs.

just like the fishing bots that fish up trumpet shells to make trumpet rings to NPC. I've seen in jeuno people synthing these for hours, never once buying any of AH. i counted once a person made over 500 in one day. now that person doesn't do it anymore but runs to a new person who does...... yeah STF at work again.

[Riggs]

wow that's some amount of frozen gil, if anyone from the special task force is on i'de be happy to get rid of some of that gil for you

[Sarick]

I saw 3 alliances in Vunk A the other day near the rabbits/puk using 9 blms reverse chaining. All the BLMs where leaders for the parties in the alliances. The others where NUDE /anon Galka sitting all stacked up near the cave.

I'm sure anyone even SE with an inkling of understanding can clearly see beyond a shadow of a doubt these people are crurer farming and converting it into gil.

One of the funny things I recalled was 2 names that caught my attention. In one allince the Leader was ****** in the Next alliance the lead character was named "******" I guess he was the pimp.

I doubt these guys will have any action taken on them because the same player or group pays for at least 18 accounts. If this RMT like activity is multiplied on all servers well, you get the idea.

Don't believe us go to Vunk Inlet do a /search count the anons with the funky names. Only idiots would assume these are legitimate players when they farm 24/7 and create trains of bots buying/selling YOU KNOW WHAT.

If you agree that these players are probably RMT click the like below.

[Nawesemo]

I saw 3 alliances in Vunk A the other day near the rabbits/puk using 9 blms reverse chaining. All the BLMs where leaders for the parties in the alliances. The others where NUDE /anon Galka sitting all stacked up near the cave.

I'm sure anyone even SE with an inkling of understanding can clearly see beyond a shadow of a doubt these people are crurer farming and converting it into gil.

One of the funny things I recalled was 2 names that caught my attention. In one allince the Leader was Shrimp in the Next alliance the lead character was named "Filpus" I guess he was the pimp.

I doubt these guys will have any action taken on them because the same player or group pays for at least 18 accounts. If this RMT like activity is multiplied on all servers well, you get the idea.

Don't believe us go to Vunk Inlet do a /search count the anons with the funky names. Only idiots would assume these are legitimate players when they farm 24/7 and create trains of bots buying/selling YOU KNOW WHAT.

If you agree these these players are probably RMT click the like below.

I gave you a like, but assuming they were gil farmers, ....

Now, I do something very similar, (no, I don't own 18 accounts), but do from time to time farm cruor like that, and invite the shell out for afk cruor, and or exp. They don't pile on one another, they often are as well dressed as gear/ wallet allows.

And the legit players doing the fellcleaves,.... I can understand normal players who are able to do this for some quick gil. (Ok not that quick) but think they would get sick of doing it day after day.

The rmt took the time to level 18 accounts to 30,.... Just to get em in, did the run to and from jeuno to access maw,..... In the horribly random name instance, I think its safe to assume something is there worth looking into. It's a problem, I'm not sure a good way to curb it though. I mean, the rmt would ammass a lot of gil on multiple accts, unload it, ..... And then get caught.... If they're willing to do the level 18 accts again,....then we've just sort of allowed it, ....it would take policing the hot cleave/aoe burns, and ban /temp ban them then and there to actually discourage it.... Imo at least. (And innocent legit players will be casualties)

[Sarick]

I gave you a like, but assuming they were gil farmers, ....

Now, I do something very similar, (no, I don't own 18 accounts), but do from time to time farm cruor like that, and invite the shell out for afk cruor, and or exp. They don't pile on one another, they often are as well dressed as gear/ wallet allows.

And the legit players doing the fellcleaves,.... I can understand normal players who are able to do this for some quick gil. (Ok not that quick) but think they would get sick of doing it day after day.

The rmt took the time to level 18 accounts to 30,.... Just to get em in, did the run to and from jeuno to access maw,..... In the horribly random name instance, I think its safe to assume something is there worth looking into. It's a problem, I'm not sure a good way to curb it though. I mean, the rmt would ammass a lot of gil on multiple accts, unload it, ..... And then get caught.... If they're willing to do the level 18 accts again,....then we've just sort of allowed it, ....it would take policing the hot cleave/aoe burns, and ban /temp ban them then and there to actually discourage it.... Imo at least. (And innocent legit players will be casualties)

The ligit players have characters that are used for duel boxing, multi-boxing or in general they actually play the game. When you see these guys their names are simply created as filler names. Nothing is wrong with cleavers and burn parties. These guys aren't cleaving anyway, they're killing one type mob then killing another type mob. They are REVERSE chaining to get 600+ curers a kill. It's the same as chaining EXP but instead of EXP crurers multiply.

Let me explain as to why SE probably won't do anything. Gil has about a two to one ratio. If each kill gets 600s that means about 1200g per kill. Multiply that times 18 every 5-10 seconds 21,600 at 6 kills a minute. Then multiply that by one hour at about 7,776,000k an hour. Last multiply that by 24 hours. My calculator is scientific so it gave me an exponent number of 1.8662 x08 or 186,624,000 gil per day.

If you multiply that by a week its 1,306,494,000 gil every 7 days.

It's really not that much gil to complain about and it shouldn't affect the economy

If my figures are wrong please correct them.

Anyone get the picture? I'm not including the items or crurers from the chest. This is just one alliance killing 1 mob at a time. When I looked yesterday 3 alliances where doing this.

[Nawesemo]

Yeah, we get... Pretty sure I agree, but feel a little like you want to argue about this... I dunno, anyway yeah, rmt bad, but I've little time to hunt them down and report em, and it'd just be one of those things, you have to be sure about if your s.e., a handful of perma bans on shell leaders could have vana'diel in riots ya know.

[Sarick]

Yeah, we get... Pretty sure I agree, but feel a little like you want to argue about this... I dunno, anyway yeah, rmt bad, but I've little time to hunt them down and report em, and it'd just be one of those things, you have to be sure about if your s.e., a handful of perma bans on shell leaders could have vana'diel in riots ya know.

Na, no one cares. Its only a few gil nobody notices. The numbers above aren't seen/realised unless someone takes the time to break them down like I did.

[Demon6324236]

Na, no one cares. Its only a few gil nobody notices. The numbers above aren't seen/realised unless someone takes the time to break them down like I did.

Ya know though, now that you put it that way I almost feel like doing that for like 3 days, 8 hours a day, with my ls, because you could pop out a relic every 3 days like that...

[Sarick]

Ya know though, now that you put it that way I almost feel like doing that for like 3 days, 8 hours a day, with my ls, because you could pop out a relic every 3 days like that...

Good luck getting people to convert all that crurer to gil and then hand it over.

Each person in the group would make 1200g per kill That's 6 kills a minute totaling 7200g. It would be 432,000g an hour. A full day (24 hours) would make 10,368,000 per day. You could make 72,576,000 gil per person per week. Not counting crurur boxes or gold box items.

NO NO NO, you can't count keys as a loss here because every kill pays for a key! Keys are 500c each and the enemies give 600 each. LOL Only one person would be not making the full amount the rest would be doing fine.

Keep in mind my numbers are very conservative estimates.