question for GM's

[Kaisha]

Don't ban them then. One week suspension plus some form of penalty (-50% Slow attack for two weeks would be annoying enough to most), plus a strike against your account.

[Plasticleg]

All right maybe I should've attached a bit of a pun that it was some what smartarse sarcasm. Again, I fail to underestimate that some people can't realize the obvious. I guess it's to grey for them.

ah, i took it literal.

booze + family over for the holiday= <<i'm sorry>>

[Nawesemo]

What about folks clearly running at speeds they shouldn't be, or blatantly looking at things that are not normally visible until it finishes its cooldown?

Abyssea such a great place for catching cheaters.

Meh.... Sprinters drink, ....and well some peoples computers run much faster than mine.... I've never been outclaimed so repeatedly that I've thought the other person was cheating, but don't doubt its happened. Back @75 though, it would tickleme pink when you knew the guy next to you was a bott.....but you had the red mob name.... Ahhhh yes glory.

[Secondplanet]

Here is a fun pic to show everyone, if this doesn't seem a tad bit suspicious then what would?



Was gonna buy this item for shifts and giggles but this is what smacked me in the face.

[Scribble]

s.e. notices 100s of mllion moving to and from any given character, they should look into it, send a tell, inquire what is all that gils purpose, and make decisions from there

SE polices RMT with their own bots. My account was suspended because a large amount of gil was traded. I contacted SE over the phone and the agent I spoke with told me that it was an automatic ban. I can't be certain because I wasn't the one who traded it, but my guess is that it was exactly two weeks after the trade.

tl;dr
SE uses programs to monitor trades and bots to automatically ban people who are flagged for 'suspicious activity'. Lazy as hell I know, but not likely to change.

[Nawesemo]

SE polices RMT with their own bots. My account was suspended because a large amount of gil was traded. I contacted SE over the phone and the agent I spoke with told me that it was an automatic ban. I can't be certain because I wasn't the one who traded it, but my guess is that it was exactly two weeks after the trade.

tl;dr
SE uses programs to monitor trades and bots to automatically ban people who are flagged for 'suspicious activity'. Lazy as hell I know, but not likely to change.

Yeah, the ban hammer.... I think I was max level 50 during the salvage-ban, and just after the auto banning, our shells patriarch Seiya, was taken hostage due to something similar... A casualty of the draconian policy, ..... I give em credit for trying, bur do think a person should have been involved in the decision..... Yes lazy, but it did need to happen...... In retrospect.

[Nawesemo]

Lol, someone paid a rediculous amount for a pearl body on cerebrus..... But yeah, some people exploit others laziness....

[Mirage]

The AH is full of obscure, outdated gear that is sold for ridiculous amounts of gil. I've been noticing this quite often the last few weeks, just looking at random items on ffxiah.com. Typically, the items are all very slow sales, usually less than one sale every couple of months, but then suddenly you have three people buying them for 10 millions, and their names are always some keyboardslam-like name.

I'm sure SE is aware of these anomalities, though. I can't imagine it being hard to detect with automated scripts/programs/whatever.

And @ Scribble, before you go out and call it lazy to use automated detection of RMT-like behavior, please try to make an estimate of how many transactions there are in this game, over all servers, per day. I'll give it a try too, and I'm gonna say "something like a few hundred thousands a day". Are you seriously expecting SE to monitor these manually? If they did, our monthly subscription would be in the hundreds, not $12.95. It is unrealistic for any big MMO to not use automatic detection of bot/rmt-like behavior. Sometimes these will produce false positives, but it is a lot easier to manually fix these false positives than it is to hire hundreds of employees to stare at transaction logs 24/7.

[Scribble]

And @ Scribble, before you go out and call it lazy to use automated detection of RMT-like behavior, please try to make an estimate of how many transactions there are in this game, over all servers, per day.

I should've been more clear about my situation. My account was compromised. I contacted support within a matter of days and my account was still automatically suspended two weeks later. They were made aware of the situation and still their bot auto-banned me. That is lazy.

Are you seriously expecting SE to monitor these manually? If they did, our monthly subscription would be in the hundreds, not $12.95.

That shit doesn't fly over my hood...

There are F2P games that have staff to review suspension or ban in those games so no, it's not asking too much. The fact that XI is a service that you pay for means you should have more attention spent on things like this. I never suggested they have someone comb through every single transaction, all day, every day and on every server. It's clear that they have a system in place that flags accounts for what they would consider to be suspicious activity. I don't think it's too much to ask that they assign a non-bot to investigate these specific cases.

You don't find ironic and maybe a little hypocritical that SE created a script to combat players using scripts?
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[Nawesemo]

I should've been more clear about my situation. My account was compromised. I contacted support within a matter of days and my account was still automatically suspended two weeks later. They were made aware of the situation and still their bot auto-banned me. That is lazy.


That shit doesn't fly over my hood...

There are F2P games that have staff to review suspension or ban in those games so no, it's not asking too much. The fact that XI is a service that you pay for means you should have more attention spent on things like this. I never suggested they have someone comb through every single transaction, all day, every day and on every server. It's clear that they have a system in place that flags accounts for what they would consider to be suspicious activity. I don't think it's too much to ask that they assign a non-bot to investigate these specific cases.

You don't find ironic and maybe a little hypocritical that SE created a script to combat players using scripts?
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I think I agree except for that last part, .... For me, to say that is like taking firearms from police... It's their world, we ask em to police it, if they dont use the tools that the bad guys use, they are asking for a e-thwomping..... But i think i agree with the rest, and if you were legit, a casualty caught in the crossfire..... Lol one of our tarus was temp banned for shouting naruto spoilers in jeuno(im sure previous violations played in the decision,),.....this is still s.e. were talking about. Yes, auto banning without a person looking at each flagged transaction is a little lazy in my book, but i think they do look now, for what its worth.