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  1. #121
    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    One of two things would happen, one is the console would crash and / or possibly corrupt server side data, of it they actually did good programming it would refuse to load the character.
    Or they could just make it so that the extra slots did not load and thus could not be accessed when a character is logged in on a ps2/3.
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  2. #122
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    I would be happy with an inventory search feature for now. Something like a command line /search inventory [item name] that would show where the item(s) is located.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freebytes View Post
    I would be happy with an inventory search feature for now. Something like a command line /search inventory [item name] that would show where the item(s) is located.
    While I'd like that as well, there's a Windower plugin to do that in the meantime.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Or they could just make it so that the extra slots did not load and thus could not be accessed when a character is logged in on a ps2/3.
    Doesn't work that way, sadly. And god help you if the 81st inventory slot is your Rag or Moogle Slip. There's no way for the game to simply "truncate" inventory space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    If you can't out-claim someone who's AFK, you need to find a new game to play.

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    God help him? Why exactly? He said it would be unavailable while logged in on a PS2, not that it would be gone forever.
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  6. #126
    Player Llana_Virren's Avatar
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    The point being that when you log onto a new system your inventory is not defaulted. So any time you log in on a PS2 at that point, you would be playing russian roullette with your inventory. And god help the developers trying to figure out how the game will decide what data will load.

    Of course, Temp Items take up the "ghost space" in inventory, so there's another reason why adding inventory on both consoles shouldn't be impossible. That said; the suggested solution requires killing the PS2 first, rather than forcing the Devs to come up with some middle ground between the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    If you can't out-claim someone who's AFK, you need to find a new game to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    God help him? Why exactly? He said it would be unavailable while logged in on a PS2, not that it would be gone forever.
    You don't get to pick which items are suddenly ~gone~. Take a 10 slot expansion for example, so 90 on all inventories. The PS2 can only open 160 total, 80 per. You lost access just the bottom 10 items in every inventory item, and ohh btw this isn't the bottom 10 as in the bottom of the bottom, their item ID's 50H ~ 59H. You have no control what's stored in those slots server side, sorting is controlled in your client no the server.

    Also has potential to have something your wearing not be loaded as each equipped item takes up an inventory slot.

    I simply see too much potential for problems, best would be to not allow that character to load on a PS2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

  8. #128
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    So don't let it be loadable by PS2s. I thought we went over this already .
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llana_Virren View Post
    The point being that when you log onto a new system your inventory is not defaulted. So any time you log in on a PS2 at that point, you would be playing russian roullette with your inventory. And god help the developers trying to figure out how the game will decide what data will load.
    You could always store your items into a space that does not get truncated before changing systems IE. mog slips, NPCs, mog house storage. Ever loaded FFXI on a new computer and logged in without installing the expansion packs? Where does all your stuff that was in your mog locker go? It all comes right back once you install Treasures of Aht Urgan
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    Player Llana_Virren's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    You could always store your items into a space that does not get truncated before changing systems IE. mog slips, NPCs, mog house storage. Ever loaded FFXI on a new computer and logged in without installing the expansion packs? Where does all your stuff that was in your mog locker go? It all comes right back once you install Treasures of Aht Urgan
    I'm not suggesting your gear will be los forevert; but rather, if you have these super spiffy "extra slots" that are suggested for PC only, and happen to go to a friends house, or your PC crashes, or for whatever reason log into a PS2, this extra gear would be unlocatable as a result of being stored in PC-only recognized memory locations. That makes for a sour gaming experience.

    The idea of having additionally gear locations within the active inventory which a console cannot recognize/retrieve is simply not realistic. Until such time as PS2 support is wholly withdrawn, this will not happen.

    There are many better solutions for inventory saving, including nameable inventory sacks which are listed as KIs versus slips which sit in inventory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    If you can't out-claim someone who's AFK, you need to find a new game to play.

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