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  1. #51
    Player Insaniac's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aarahs View Post
    Were you going to bother explaining that? Because it has everything to do with it. I can look at other equipment (let's take the line of attribute rings for example) and I see a mostly steady progression from lower level to higher level. Or does your argument have no substance? Please explain how level requirements on auctionable equipment has no bearing on power.


    Dipper is an uncapped pet lol. It's level is based on the level of the BST calling it, not the level it can be equipped.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldersyde View Post
    If you paid attention to the thread in which bsts were in an uproar about SE's broken promise to add pet: th+ gear, you would know that there was a pretty sizable group (bst haters mostly) who rejected the premise that SE made a promise at all because they didn't explicitly state, as a promise, that they would add the gear. Bsts took it as a promise based on the context of Camate's post. The haters seemed to agree that inferring SE's intention from context was something that bsts shouldn't have done. Therefore, since I just consider you a generic bst hater, I'm not going to let you change the rules and let you do the same to serve your own argument. No bst stated that they want pet TH for dynamis farming. No inferring from context! Sorry, I didn't make the rules. You're going to have to talk to the Bst Hater's Union on that one. So nyah! <raspberry>
    Again, it doesn't matter what you think you were promised. It's a terrible idea.
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    tandava crackows + chocobo jig + animated flourish = prouesse ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    Oh no, I can only solo farm 250 currency a day!

    This injustice shall not stand!!!

    (big lolz at all the "real bsts" kvetching about all the people who leveled bst to farm dynamis in a thread where they're all crying for pet TH....to help them farm dynamis)
    You got it all wrong maaaaan.

    They leveled bst to afk +2 armor, dynamis came after that!
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    Again, it doesn't matter what you think you were promised. It's a terrible idea.
    Please provide examples, tia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caketime View Post
    For the other 99% of the game that isn't Dynamis.
    Then I have some awesome news for you: recently, the SE dev team announced you can sub THF to get the effects of TH2 on BST!

    Ain't life grand?
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    tandava crackows + chocobo jig + animated flourish = prouesse ring

  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caketime View Post
    Please provide examples, tia.
    It's a terrible idea because you aren't asking for more TH gear for everybody, just BST.

    It's a terrible idea because you're asking for a buff to the one thing BST is actually already outstanding at, rather than asking for the actual MASSIVE problems the job has (gil-for-gear playstyle, horrible gear scaling, consistent lack of utility in current endgame gimmicks) to be addressed.

    It's a terrible idea because no THF is asking for the ability to use Mulsum on himself.

    And for (what probably won't be, who am I kidding) the last time, I don't care what anybody thinks they were promised, because had Camate or whoever it was sworn on the lives of his children BST would be getting Pet TH gear, it would still be a terrible idea.
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    Last edited by scaevola; 09-14-2012 at 01:40 PM.
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    If only Yuly had something awesome to make it a situationally useful pet.

    Maybe, I don't know, being functionally immune to wind elemental damage or something?


    man that would be sick.

    And frankly, I don`t give a damn if you think my sense of "entitlement" is misguided. I personally think that if SE wants to defend some kind of TH hierarchy with thf at the top, then thf should be left to rot in other ways (that is, offensively) but if SE decided to give thfs something nice in this regard, I certainly wouldn't go into the thread raising a big stink about it, mainly because I'm not a petty douche. And if I did, I would certainly expect to be told to F-off because it would be straight up trolling to get a rise out of people. Kind of like you did with your initial post of this thread.
    So why push for BST-specific TH gear and not TH gear for everyone?

    I mean, that would still be a terrible idea but at least it wouldn't make you look ridiculous.

    EDIT:

    I may have "liked" his post but that's only because in principle, I'm not going to object to nice things for my favorite job. Who doesn't want nice things for their job?
    Retaliation would be nice for my DNC.

    SE plz fix
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    Last edited by scaevola; 09-14-2012 at 02:05 PM.
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    Player Aldersyde's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    If only Yuly had something awesome to make it a situationally useful pet.

    Maybe, I don't know, being functionally immune to wind elemental damage or something?


    man that would be sick.



    So why push for BST-specific TH gear and not TH gear for everyone?

    I mean, that would still be a terrible idea but at least it wouldn't make you look ridiculous.
    You know that Gooey and Fatso have fantastic water resistance right? And Ralphie has thunder resistance as well? Pretty sure Falcorr is resistant to light magic and would mean a lot more if light was actually a scary element. Those are basic properties of those mob families. Yuly gains that resistance simply by the virtue of innate resistances. There's nothing "special" about it. Yuly came with everything a ladybug should have came with, because she's a ladybug.

    Why don't you go back and actually read my last post instead of just interpreting what you want it to say? I'm not even advocating what you think I'm advocating. In fact, I'm pretty sure I said something quite different. But I'm not typing it out again. Go back and read it. Practice makes perfect!

    Ok, I'll give you a hint. I would fully support any buff that SE decided to give out for any or all jobs. Buffs over nerfs. Always.

    Oh, looks like you can't re-read it cause "someone" snitched my post out and it got nuked. Probably for "aggressive language." Tattling really did go out after grammar school you know.
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    Last edited by Aldersyde; 09-14-2012 at 02:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldersyde View Post
    You know that Gooey and Fatso have fantastic water resistance right? And Ralphie has thunder resistance as well? Pretty sure Falcorr is resistant to light magic and would mean a lot more if light was actually a scary element. Those are basic properties of those mob families. Yuly gains that resistance simply by the virtue of innate resistances. There's nothing "special" about it. Yuly came with everything a ladybug should have came with, because she's a ladybug.
    uh

    your argument is that because you have a whole bunch of other pets that do the same thing for other elements, having a pet that basically means you can, for instance, get a Masamune, Caladbolg, or Armageddon whenever you kind of feel like it isn't an advantage you consider particularly noteworthy

    ...ok

    Why don't you go back and actually read my last post instead of just interpreting what you want it say? I'm not even advocating what you think I'm advocating. In fact, I'm pretty sure I said something quite different. But I'm not typing it out again. Go back and read it. Practice makes perfect!
    i know exactly what you meant to say.

    Ok, I'll give you a hint. I would fully support any buff that SE decided to give out for any or all jobs. Buffs over nerfs. Always.
    I wholeheartedly support any buffs to BST that address the very real problems the job has that I mentioned further up this page.

    In the meantime, again, why have you not responded to the idea of TH gear for all jobs? I do think that would be a bad idea as well, because TH is valuable enough in itself that a player ought to have to give something up in order to take advantage of it (either by virtue of subbing THF or actually bringing a main along), but at least that would almost be fair.
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    Last edited by scaevola; 09-14-2012 at 02:18 PM.
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    Player Aldersyde's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    uh

    your argument is that because you have a whole bunch of other pets that do the same thing for other elements, having a pet that basically means you can, for instance, get a Masamune, Caladbolg, or Armageddon whenever you kind of feel like it isn't an advantage you consider particularly noteworthy

    ...ok
    Uhhh, no. You presented Yuly`s wind resistance as some kind of miraculous, special thing and I was just pointing out that it wasn't.

    If you think that was my argument, I have severe doubts that you knew what I was trying to say in my previous post (since nuked because of "someone's" complaint).

    I don't care who SE gives TH equipment to. Why would I? I already said I support buffs (through gear and abilities/traits) to all jobs. Happy?
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    Last edited by Aldersyde; 09-14-2012 at 02:27 PM.

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