Empyrean weapon needed adjustments

[Cream_Soda]

You may not understand my logic, but I certainly do not understand yours. You keep wanting to go in order of difficulty and yet you keep putting relics ahead of mythics, when mythics are much more difficult to obtain.

[Alderin]

It's probably the panty shot

Nah it's simply how ridiculously stupid it is.

[Cream_Soda]

Let me rephrase then. You make it sound like the Additional effects somehow out classes Emp weapons that don't need an additional effect to out damage a relic weapon. It was actually the guy below you that made it sound like Relics were overpowered with his statement about Emp weapons living in Relics shadows (which isn't even remotely true).

Haven't seen the big difference between Relic GK and Emp GK I can tell you there is very very little SE could add to an Emp weapon without nerfing something else. Right now Emp weapons are unbalanced and what you're asking only makes the weapons stupidly unbalanced. Don't mean to jump your case....but like a lot of relic owners I'm getting tired of people saying Relics are "fine" the way they are right now.

I never said I thought or even implied that relics/mythics outclassed emps because of their additional effects. I simply said that relics/mythics have a rather large amount of uniqueness to them where as empies are pretty bland and aside form the ws, all the same.

All I want is some uniqueness to be added to the weapons.

[Cream_Soda]

Nah it's simply how ridiculously stupid it is.

Oh man, someone doesn't like my sig. I must take it down right away!

[Insaniac]

You may not understand my logic, but I certainly do not understand yours. You keep wanting to go in order of difficulty and yet you keep putting relics ahead of mythics, when mythics are much more difficult to obtain.

Only 1 person suggested relics > mythics > emps that I saw. Mythics have always been about utility but SE failed to give them enough utility for the amount of work they require. All 3 of them should be tied for best weapon for different reasons.

As it stand now it's unarguably:

Emp > Relic > Mythic

in all but maybe 2 cases.

[Cenz]

A level 90 empyreal is only attainable to a small amount of harcore players just like relic and mythics, so no.

um... yes and no... I did as anyone can do .... 85-90 with shout groups ... 6 man dragua for my 90 verethagna... this is not the case with apademak.... but the "jormy" would be the same as dragua easy fights just takes a little longer... Chloris was way more of a pain to farm but easy kill ... and lol @ camping f'n Amun against 3 other ls's every day ... which i also did with alot of shout groups so i didnt have to make my ls do the weapon for me ;p... while i am a veteran player... my group was surely not

[Rambus]

You may not understand my logic, but I certainly do not understand yours. You keep wanting to go in order of difficulty and yet you keep putting relics ahead of mythics, when mythics are much more difficult to obtain.

SE did not program their intent correctly, they wanted mythics to be quest based, 30 000 money and gil spent for ein is not quest based.

all they did was make it 50 000 to 30 000, when they did that i did submit suggestions it still was not enough change.

relics where bad ( some of them anyway) since day 1, all mythics but WHM club, SMN staff, COR gun was bad since day 1, now with emp gun cor mythic is bad

all the rest of the weapons are really got to be subpar when magin trials first came out, and that has not changed.

so it takes these OP emps for people to really speak out on them

[Cream_Soda]

Only 1 person suggested relics > mythics > emps that I saw. Mythics have always been about utility but SE failed to give them enough utility for the amount of work they require. All 3 of them should be tied for best weapon for different reasons.

As it stand now it's unarguably:

Emp > Relic > Mythic

in all but maybe 2 cases.

The person I was talking to with what you quoted was the person who said relics were the hardest to get.

[Alderin]

You may not understand my logic, but I certainly do not understand yours. You keep wanting to go in order of difficulty and yet you keep putting relics ahead of mythics, when mythics are much more difficult to obtain.

My logic is simple.

Empyrean weapons do not need to be boosted.

Relics AND Mythics do. Forget about attainability order if that's messing with your small brain.

Empyreans = New, easy to get, & currently the strongest weapons in the game.
Mythic & Relic = Old (which means people have had them long before Abyssea and have missed out on any decent updates), take a long arse time to obtain, and are currently weak compared to the new kid on the block.

Empyrean = Fine where it is
Relic & Mythic = Need a boost.

Did I simplify it for you at all?

/ragequit

[Jamesruglia]

Yes, pump up Empyrean weapons! They're awesome, relic weapons are weak. Sell all your ancient currency away. >.>"