Empyrean weapon needed adjustments

[Alderin]

WRONG.

Mythics are way more difficult to get than relics.

Dude, chill. I stand corrected.

Man your signature is hypnotising >_> couldnt think of a decent response to have a whinge to you because of it.

[Cream_Soda]

Dude, chill. I stand corrected.

Man your signature is hypnotising >_> couldnt think of a decent response to have a whinge to you because of it.

It's probably the panty shot

[Alderin]

It's probably the panty shot

Nah it's simply how ridiculously stupid it is.

[Cream_Soda]

Nah it's simply how ridiculously stupid it is.

Oh man, someone doesn't like my sig. I must take it down right away!

[Kitkat]

Most of the Emp weapons do 1.5-3x the peak WS dmg (speaking of in Abyssea), ODD processes way more often than a relics 2.5-3x dmg hidden effect, and you people honestly think they need a BOOST?!? The OP even says Relics are over powered?!?! How the hell is a 3% difference in base damage overpowered compared to a weapon that can ODD way more often? How are the WS of a Relic better than Emp when the add effects are hardly noticeable and there is no real buff to the WS outside the Stats for the WS themselves? Not to mention that for Emp more tp = longer aftermath and increases the WS dmg/crit chance/ignore def while for Relics more tp only adds a longer aftermath.

To the person complaining about Fudo having a lower Base TP Mod, take a look at the description of your WS:

Tachi: Fudo
Description: Deals double damage. Damage varies with TP. Masamune: Aftermath.

Tachi: Kaiten
Description: Additional effect: temporarily increases amount of TP stored with each hit.

Honestly, if most of you aren't trolls then you really need to do your homework on how vastly better your weapons are compared to relics right now. There is only 3 or so Emp WS that are equal/comparable to Relic WS, but their ODD aftermath still makes them better than the relic in the long run.

[Cream_Soda]

The OP even says Relics are over powered?!?!

I never said relics were overpowered.

[Kitkat]

I never said relics were overpowered.

Let me rephrase then. You make it sound like the Additional effects somehow out classes Emp weapons that don't need an additional effect to out damage a relic weapon. It was actually the guy below you that made it sound like Relics were overpowered with his statement about Emp weapons living in Relics shadows (which isn't even remotely true).

Having seen the big difference between Relic GK and Emp GK I can tell you there is very very little SE could add to an Emp weapon without nerfing something else. Right now Emp weapons are unbalanced and what you're asking only makes the weapons stupidly unbalanced. Don't mean to jump your case....but like a lot of relic owners I'm getting tired of people saying Relics are "fine" the way they are right now.

[Cream_Soda]

Let me rephrase then. You make it sound like the Additional effects somehow out classes Emp weapons that don't need an additional effect to out damage a relic weapon. It was actually the guy below you that made it sound like Relics were overpowered with his statement about Emp weapons living in Relics shadows (which isn't even remotely true).

Haven't seen the big difference between Relic GK and Emp GK I can tell you there is very very little SE could add to an Emp weapon without nerfing something else. Right now Emp weapons are unbalanced and what you're asking only makes the weapons stupidly unbalanced. Don't mean to jump your case....but like a lot of relic owners I'm getting tired of people saying Relics are "fine" the way they are right now.

I never said I thought or even implied that relics/mythics outclassed emps because of their additional effects. I simply said that relics/mythics have a rather large amount of uniqueness to them where as empies are pretty bland and aside form the ws, all the same.

All I want is some uniqueness to be added to the weapons.

[Rambus]

75 great birds , 1.2k ish if i remember right.

no tripple attack

[Insaniac]

75 great birds , 1.2k ish if i remember right.

no tripple attack

I've done 1.5k with V fork @ 75 so this was probably just a double crit. We would have seen SSs of 2.2k~ jumps with Gungnir @ 75 if the hidden effect could proc on jumps and afaik none of those exist.