Empyrean weapon needed adjustments

**Rambus** · 03-20-2011 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by Insaniac

I can confirm first hand ODD cant proc on Jumps but Neither can Gungirs hidden effect. I can also confirm first hand the empyrean ODD will proc on any hit of a double attack or triple attack.

MY ls leader had crazy jump damage, how do you explain the hidden not working on jump?

**Cream_Soda** · 03-20-2011 02:09 AM

The OP even says Relics are over powered?!?!

I never said relics were overpowered.

**Cream_Soda** · 03-20-2011 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by Rambus

MY ls leader had crazy jump damage, how do you explain the hidden not working on jump?

Triple attack and crit proc on all 3. Jumps can crit.

**Insaniac** · 03-20-2011 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by Alderin

Attainability (From easiest to hardest)
Empyrean > Mythic > Relic.

Empyrean > Relic > Mythic*

There is a ton of other work involved in finishing a mythic even if you buy all the alexandrites. Mythics however were supposed to be about utility and not raw damage. SE failed to realize when designing them that for DDs Raw Damage trumps utility every time. Then on top of that they didn't even make the utility that great on most of the weapons.

Boost Relic damage. MEGA-BOOST Mythic utility and every reasonable person will be happy.

**Rambus** · 03-20-2011 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

Triple attack and crit proc on all 3. Jumps can crit.

Wasn't talking in abysssea era, i know that can happen

Originally Posted by Insaniac

Boost Relic damage. MEGA-BOOST Mythic utility and every reasonable person will be happy.

YES! ^

**Insaniac** · 03-20-2011 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by Rambus

MY ls leader had crazy jump damage, how do you explain the hidden not working on jump?

A triple crit spirit or soul jump will do 2000-2500 damage in abyssea.

Edit: Be more specific. How much damage are you talking about and on what mobs.

**Rambus** · 03-20-2011 02:16 AM

75 great birds , 1.2k ish if i remember right.

no tripple attack

**Cream_Soda** · 03-20-2011 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Rambus

Wasn't talking in abysssea era, i know that can happen

YES! ^

Yes, but outside of abyssea, you have a what? 24% crit rate and 1% triple attack (homam body) vs inside abyssea 15%+ triple attack rate w/ 54-74% crit rate (depending on atmas). As well as being much closer to, if not, capped fstr which you certainly weren't getting before, etc etc.

**Alderin** · 03-20-2011 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by Insaniac

Empyrean > Relic > Mythic*

There is a ton of other work involved in finishing a mythic even if you buy all the alexandrites. Mythics however were supposed to be about utility and not raw damage. SE failed to realize when designing them that for DDs Raw Damage trumps utility every time. Then on top of that they didn't even make the utility that great on most of the weapons.

Boost Relic damage. MEGA-BOOST Mythic utility and every reasonable person will be happy.

Ah right, shows how much I know about Mythic weapons then. Will edit with the correction.

All in all, as a non-relic owner, you relic owners have a +1 on my vote. You guys have been majorly gipped since Empyreans were released.

**Rambus** · 03-20-2011 02:19 AM

could be wrong i guess so the only thing you can get this ODD or hidden effect is on barrage?

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