Empyrean weapon needed adjustments

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Lol @empyreans needing a buff of any kind. Relics and Mythics do need buffing however to actually compere with the much easier to obtain overpowered empyreans.

They don't need to compair. They're old. That's like saying the level 1 starting RSE needs to compair with empyrean+2.

[Ryland]

I think empyreans need a buff, because they are not as powerful as they should be. Maybe if you have an empy weapon you should be allowed to use 4 atma instead of 3! Yeah! Should also lower the entrance level for abyssea to 1.

[Futan]

I think empyreans need a buff, because they are not as powerful as they should be. Maybe if you have an empy weapon you should be allowed to use 4 atma instead of 3! Yeah! Should also lower the entrance level for abyssea to 1.

But onry if you're wearing the empy. Else it would be OP!!!

[Mezzopiano]

The Empyrean staff needs a buff, or at least something to make it not useless like the relic/mythic staves.

[Rambus]

Is this a joke thread? mythics them selfs are not even good enough, the only thing I would say in buffing the emps is put mage stats on the staffs.

Maybe some ws should be changed, like how does bow emp ws compare to gun emp ws outside abyssea?

should some be magic based while others are crt?

and the simple aftermath and the fact some emp weapons have the lowest D when compared to mythics and relics does incatate SE intendeds for them not to overtake mythics and relics.

any different situation is likely a mistake

[Alistaire]

Is this a joke thread?

This forum continues to amaze me, I'm agreeing with Rambus again. Nobody agreeing with the OP has any idea how these weapons stack up to relics or mythics. Seriously, with all due respect, anyone thinking Empyreans need a boost should actually look into how much they blow the other weapons away.

[Cream_Soda]

This forum continues to amaze me, I'm agreeing with Rambus again. Nobody agreeing with the OP has any idea how these weapons stack up to relics or mythics. Seriously, with all due respect, anyone thinking Empyreans need a boost should actually look into how much they blow the other weapons away.

I assure you, I know exactly how all 3 work.

[svengalis]

342 post already!

[Insaniac]

I hope all the people saying emps need a damage boost are just trolling(some of you are obviously). There is not a single emp that isn't as good or better than its relic counterpart barring MAYBE the scythe because the utility of the drain effect on cata. I just haven't seen enough of Quietus to say for sure. If they give them the utility of mythics they have to nerf the damage or they will be even more out of balance. Aftermath on both hands isn't gonna happen. It's the "sacrifice" you make for dual wielding. MNKs should maybe get it but then Spharai mnks would kill themselves.

[Vortex]

You have to understand that emp weapons are the DAMAGE PATH, so that's what they are good at, DAMAGE, unlike relics/mythics they cost 0 gill unless you want to be lazy and buy all your rare/ex item from people doing the work for you.

Honestly, i like the way they were done, aside from the reason just stated above they force you to WORK for them, unlike a relic where all you need is a bunch of gill that you probably bought or spent a ton of time accumilating and just dump it all into getting stage 3 with little work needed for the attenstation and fragment.

They didn't intend for them to be a copy of the relic or mythic ones, then what would be the point in the unique factor.