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    Yeah, it would solidify Terpsichore as the best Healing/support mainhand for Dancer.

    Steps do have some innate Acc penalty (I think?) but it seems to be countered by AF1 hands and AF2 feet, along with stuff like Choreia Earring and numerous pieces of Accuracy gear. There was never really a need for it on the Mythic, and there certainly isn't now. I'd gladly trade it for 1-5% Haste Samba (Level I to V through upgrades).

    In an ideal case (G-horn, AF3+2 hands, 600 skill) Double Marches and Haste would let 2H DDs hit the delay cap with 15% Haste Samba and no Hasso. Well, it would let all DDs hit the delay cap, but most don't actually need the last 5% Haste thanks to Dual Wield and Martial Arts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    Yeah, it would solidify Terpsichore as the best Healing/support mainhand for Dancer.

    Steps do have some innate Acc penalty (I think?) but it seems to be countered by AF1 hands and AF2 feet, along with stuff like Choreia Earring and numerous pieces of Accuracy gear. There was never really a need for it on the Mythic, and there certainly isn't now. I'd gladly trade it for 1-5% Haste Samba (Level I to V through upgrades).
    oh gee i thoguht i was the only one that thought that, so I made a step macro with o hat and such -.-

    not sure how much a 90 G horn is needed over the old +2/+3? common one but I never did the math on it.


    I am a bit out of date when it cames to level 90 math and such things.

    Idealy you would want march 2/ haste spell and attack song i think
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    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
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    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    That would give better damage, if you kept Hasso and used a Minuet , but Seigan wouldn't be *that* much of a damage loss anymore. Hasso would effectively give you 80 Attack (Minuet V) instead of 10% Haste.

    With 600 skill, Victory March is 10.5% Haste and Advancing March is 7% Haste. Each March+1 is +1% Haste, going to a total of 14.5%/11% with G-horn (90) for +3 and AF3+2 hands for +1.
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    what is needed for cap delay on 2H?

    ill give me an idea when talking about some mythics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post
    what is needed for cap delay on 2H?

    ill give me an idea when talking about some mythics.
    80% delay reduction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post
    To attack a person to attack or ague for the sake for arguing is violate the ToS.
    Seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream_Soda View Post
    80% delay reduction.

    how hard is 600 total skill to get to without ghorn?

    what much much difference does the g-horn skill come in play.

    is there a common +3 yet for march? hard to keep track of all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    600 is very easy to get. I think Bard has it naked with capped skills. There is no common +3 yet for Bard, but Terpsichores are much less common than G-horns anyway if we're inventing fantastic situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    600 is very easy to get. I think Bard has it naked with capped skills. There is no common +3 yet for Bard, but Terpsichores are much less common than G-horns anyway if we're inventing fantastic situations.

    that is because mythics in general never gave the appeal "get me" the asking improvements on it show this.

    If we make mythics more reasonable to get and improvements are made to them, hopfully that case can change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    Blah, I had a response written out but accidentally hit backspace and erased it. Long story short, they'd have to make a ton of changes for Mythics to be reasonable again without changing to requirements. I don't think they will, because it would be a tremendous amount of work. The easiest way to make mythics reasonable would be to simply reduce the requirements substantially, which I also think they'll avoid doing. I'm going to keep trying to get Terpsi slowly, but only because I have nothing better to do in game.
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