Empyrean weapon needed adjustments

[Yogi]

nothing needs to be done at present but I think the final 99 upgrade should add something unique. If they give everything now what will be then useful for further upgrades, apart from a damage boost.

[Byrth]

Thanks for the support guys.

My favorite Dancer Waltz-fix idea is just an odd/even split. You could try and alternate Waltz V and IV the way that WHMs alternate Cure V and VI, and toss Curing Waltz III when V isn't up. Those are changes that really need to be applied to the whole job though.

Terpsichore-specific ideas so far is doubling the finishing move cap / limiting Reverse Flourish to 5 moves and just adding 1-5% Haste Samba to it instead of Step Acc that we don't need.

[Rambus]

Thanks for the support guys.

My favorite Dancer Waltz-fix idea is just an odd/even split. You could try and alternate Waltz V and IV the way that WHMs alternate Cure V and VI, and toss Curing Waltz III when V isn't up. Those are changes that really need to be applied to the whole job though.

Terpsichore-specific ideas so far is doubling the finishing move cap / limiting Reverse Flourish to 5 moves and just adding 1-5% Haste Samba to it instead of Step Acc that we don't need.

you mean making hasta samba better and get rid of the step acc, this is talking about mythic dagger right?

that better haste samba would be better for other melees though then yourself as DW/ Martial Arts jobs are getting closer and easier hitting the overall cap on delay.

[Byrth]

Yeah, it would solidify Terpsichore as the best Healing/support mainhand for Dancer.

Steps do have some innate Acc penalty (I think?) but it seems to be countered by AF1 hands and AF2 feet, along with stuff like Choreia Earring and numerous pieces of Accuracy gear. There was never really a need for it on the Mythic, and there certainly isn't now. I'd gladly trade it for 1-5% Haste Samba (Level I to V through upgrades).

In an ideal case (G-horn, AF3+2 hands, 600 skill) Double Marches and Haste would let 2H DDs hit the delay cap with 15% Haste Samba and no Hasso. Well, it would let all DDs hit the delay cap, but most don't actually need the last 5% Haste thanks to Dual Wield and Martial Arts.

[Rambus]

Yeah, it would solidify Terpsichore as the best Healing/support mainhand for Dancer.

Steps do have some innate Acc penalty (I think?) but it seems to be countered by AF1 hands and AF2 feet, along with stuff like Choreia Earring and numerous pieces of Accuracy gear. There was never really a need for it on the Mythic, and there certainly isn't now. I'd gladly trade it for 1-5% Haste Samba (Level I to V through upgrades).

oh gee i thoguht i was the only one that thought that, so I made a step macro with o hat and such -.-

not sure how much a 90 G horn is needed over the old +2/+3? common one but I never did the math on it.


I am a bit out of date when it cames to level 90 math and such things.

Idealy you would want march 2/ haste spell and attack song i think

[Byrth]

600 is very easy to get. I think Bard has it naked with capped skills. There is no common +3 yet for Bard, but Terpsichores are much less common than G-horns anyway if we're inventing fantastic situations.

[Rambus]

600 is very easy to get. I think Bard has it naked with capped skills. There is no common +3 yet for Bard, but Terpsichores are much less common than G-horns anyway if we're inventing fantastic situations.

that is because mythics in general never gave the appeal "get me" the asking improvements on it show this.

If we make mythics more reasonable to get and improvements are made to them, hopfully that case can change.

[Rambus]

what is needed for cap delay on 2H?

ill give me an idea when talking about some mythics.

[Cream_Soda]

what is needed for cap delay on 2H?

ill give me an idea when talking about some mythics.

80% delay reduction.

[Rambus]

80% delay reduction.

how hard is 600 total skill to get to without ghorn?

what much much difference does the g-horn skill come in play.

is there a common +3 yet for march? hard to keep track of all that.