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    Player annewandering's Avatar
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    What I would like is club to be more useful for parties. In abyssea whm is, naturally, doing its job in the backline so what use does it have of club and how could it be actually useful? I am thinking something to maybe get tp going since whm, for sure, does not get tp naturally in party.
    Would it be useful to have a tp gain feature? The reason being, of course, that for procs whm wouldnt be out there meleeing, overly long, to get tp instead of doing their regular job.
    If instead of tp gain what else would be useful?
    What I see is that while meleeing whm regular jobs are neglected. Perhaps something to help with that?
    Honestly I am fishing for ideas and any useful ones would be appreciated.
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    Player Rambus's Avatar
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    I point to this if you want to know my views on mythics and what needs changing:
    Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post
    yeah 14-16k would hurt since its your 4th dang /confort.

    I would love the order to be relic>mythic emp. but a lot of fixing needs to achive that

    casting damage needs a relic ( mages are not melee lol claustrum)




    relics are easer to fix then mythics in my opion, relics just need the WS stronger ( at 75 most of the ws was weak anyway)

    problems of mythics:
    mythics need a level 3 skillchain protperty

    mythics like brd dagger, rdm sword, BLM staff needs more use then being macros.

    PLD sword needs to pad PLD's damage a bit

    SCH staff needs to be upgraded from useless

    RNG mythic needs to be upgraded from useless ( hint trueflight is not a good ws)

    DRK needs relic and mythic to be upreagred form useless. ( effect of ws and ws damage is bad for both)

    COR gun: WS needs fixing

    MNK mythic ( dont know pad ws to out do emp i guess/ better after effect)

    THF ( affter effect/ WS issue)

    SAM: different enchancement, maybe hasso, seigan, change affer effects, better ws

    NIN: augement Yonin/Innin, better ws, better after effect

    DRG: ( this looks decent actally, maybe better after effect, increase drakesbane damage when used by ryunohige)

    BLU, PUP, DNC pretty much the same, better ws and after effect.

    some other ways of changing relics/ mythics, allow a quest to gain acess to emp ws and let emp ws trigger the aftermaths

    some mythic ws are bad I don't know if they are worth changing but giving them acess to the emp ws.
    If SE wants mythics to be stuck on thier mythic ws , the mythic ws under mythic weapon needs to be a lot better, and granted a level 3 property.

    some mythics have good ws like drakesbane so might be easier to fix.

    like to see mythics fixed so its more of every 20 emps i see, i see 5 relics and 1 mythic

    and that mythic tends to be SMN staff or WHM club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    Relics are just that, old. Make empyrean better and make the relic/mythic easier to obtain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    Relics are just that, old. Make empyrean better and make the relic/mythic easier to obtain.
    You're right... screw everyone who devoted 100x the effort to their weapons because they did it first when it was harder to obtain..... Worst. suggestion. ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    You're right... screw everyone who devoted 100x the effort to their weapons because they did it first when it was harder to obtain..... Worst. suggestion. ever.
    What is worse is to assume I give a damn about relic holders.
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    Player Rambus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    What is worse is to assume I give a damn about relic holders.
    Do you realize you're talking to some?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    What is worse is to assume I give a damn about relic holders.
    You don't care about relic holders because you are mad you could never get one. This pretty much sums up everyone who trolls people with relics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    You don't care about relic holders because you are mad you could never get one. This pretty much sums up everyone who trolls people with relics.
    Or it's just good fun because people get so upset!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    You don't care about relic holders because you are mad you could never get one. This pretty much sums up everyone who trolls people with relics.
    Dynamis is boring and I'm glad they are making getting a relic less of a time sink. Mad, no. I have always accepted the fact that I could not invest the time into getting one. But I have helped a few friends with theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    You don't care about relic holders because you are mad you could never get one. This pretty much sums up everyone who trolls people with relics.
    Mad is about what sums up relic holders, lol
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