Empyrean weapon needed adjustments

[Cream_Soda]

Ah right, shows how much I know about Mythic weapons then. Will edit with the correction.

All in all, as a non-relic owner, you relic owners have a +1 on my vote. You guys have been majorly gipped since Empyreans were released.

Riiiiight because going from 1st to 2nd place (third minimum) and still utterly owning the crap out of everything else in the game is "majorly gipped"

[Alderin]

WRONG.

Mythics are way more difficult to get than relics.

Dude, chill. I stand corrected.

Man your signature is hypnotising >_> couldnt think of a decent response to have a whinge to you because of it.

[Alistaire]

Is this a joke thread?

This forum continues to amaze me, I'm agreeing with Rambus again. Nobody agreeing with the OP has any idea how these weapons stack up to relics or mythics. Seriously, with all due respect, anyone thinking Empyreans need a boost should actually look into how much they blow the other weapons away.

[Cream_Soda]

Dude, chill. I stand corrected.

Man your signature is hypnotising >_> couldnt think of a decent response to have a whinge to you because of it.

It's probably the panty shot

[Insaniac]

75 great birds , 1.2k ish if i remember right.

no tripple attack

I've done 1.5k with V fork @ 75 so this was probably just a double crit. We would have seen SSs of 2.2k~ jumps with Gungnir @ 75 if the hidden effect could proc on jumps and afaik none of those exist.

[Cream_Soda]

This forum continues to amaze me, I'm agreeing with Rambus again. Nobody agreeing with the OP has any idea how these weapons stack up to relics or mythics. Seriously, with all due respect, anyone thinking Empyreans need a boost should actually look into how much they blow the other weapons away.

I assure you, I know exactly how all 3 work.

[Alderin]

Riiiiight because going from 1st to 2nd place (third minimum) and still utterly owning the crap out of everything else in the game is "majorly gipped"

Could say the same for the relic owners. Especially when all these overnight weapons are overpowered compared to the weapons that people took years to create?

I don't understand your logic. You want to BOOST something that is already the best in the game, and easiest to get? I understand where SE is going with things but don't you think Relic owners should get more then a pat on the back for spending the crazy amount of time / gil that is required?

I am not saying to reduce Empyreans - I am saying to BOOST Relics and Mythics compared to Empyreans. Order of power should still be Relic > Mythic > Empyrean.

I believe your suggestion is flawed. Empyreans do not need boosting at all.

The end.

[Insaniac]

Riiiiight because going from 1st to 2nd place (third minimum) and still utterly owning the crap out of everything else in the game is "majorly gipped"

From your posts I can tell you don't have a relic. You can't appreciate the effort it takes to get one. Having a weapon you can duo/trio in a week outclass your months or even years of work is MAJORLY messed up.

[Rambus]

I've done 1.5k with V fork @ 75 so this was probably just a double crit. We would have seen SSs of 2.2k~ jumps with Gungnir @ 75 if the hidden effect could proc on jumps and afaik none of those exist.

1.5k ? dang maybe i was not using food or something I never got that high even on a tripple attack, lest it seemed that way based on tp back.

I do macro homan body in my jumps, though I did not adjust my drg in the 90 era yet.

[Kitkat]

I never said relics were overpowered.

Let me rephrase then. You make it sound like the Additional effects somehow out classes Emp weapons that don't need an additional effect to out damage a relic weapon. It was actually the guy below you that made it sound like Relics were overpowered with his statement about Emp weapons living in Relics shadows (which isn't even remotely true).

Having seen the big difference between Relic GK and Emp GK I can tell you there is very very little SE could add to an Emp weapon without nerfing something else. Right now Emp weapons are unbalanced and what you're asking only makes the weapons stupidly unbalanced. Don't mean to jump your case....but like a lot of relic owners I'm getting tired of people saying Relics are "fine" the way they are right now.