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    Quote Originally Posted by Godofgods View Post
    So SE isn't trying to screw you over with the satchel. Believe it or not, they are trying to help you with this setup.
    I am very sure they have the best of intentions. Their execution is what's usually flawed. We know what they were trying to achieve, but it still wasn't the right way to go about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    I am very sure they have the best of intentions. Their execution is what's usually flawed. We know what they were trying to achieve, but it still wasn't the right way to go about it.
    You would rather they passed the extra cost associated with having to investigate and rollback hacked accounts onto the subscribers in the form of a monthly rate increase? Honestly I'm amazed that people in this game were so eager to give SE $50 for some ugly costume jewelry simply because it came with an in-game item that saved an occasional 10 - 15 minutes of travel time, but are so adamantly convinced that the $10 security token was a cash grab by SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salvation View Post
    You would rather they passed the extra cost associated with having to investigate and rollback hacked accounts onto the subscribers in the form of a monthly rate increase?
    No, on a per-case basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salvation View Post
    Honestly I'm amazed that people in this game were so eager to give SE $50 for some ugly costume jewelry simply because it came with an in-game item that saved an occasional 10 - 15 minutes of travel time, but are so adamantly convinced that the $10 security token was a cash grab by SE.
    It was $10 for the jewelry, and just like the token I got it only for the in-game reward item, and I think both were equally shady RMT acts by SE. Trading real money for in-game benefits.
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    Why not just let us buy it in Game for 1 Million gil? So you have two options

    1) Protect your Account - Get it free

    2) Spend 1 Mil gil, Still able to get it.

    Seems like a fair all around solution. You have a way to get it in game, and out of game.
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    bought the token; DCed a birrion times; got sick of having to go get it every 15min; deactivated it; inventory space alone still worth the money.

    EDIT: also, i wear the now useless keychain on my jacket through a buttonhole near the collar. nice conversation piece for ffxi enthusiasts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post

    It was $10 for the jewelry, and just like the token I got it only for the in-game reward item, and I think both were equally shady RMT acts by SE. Trading real money for in-game benefits.
    Actually the selling price set forth by SE was $42.99 --> http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/top...al/080818.html
    While I can understand your point of view on the subject, the point I'm trying to convey is that the token still served the overall purpose of safeguarding your account. I'll agree with your previous sentiment that it could have been handled in a better way, but that was the extra incentive they chose to entice players into taking that extra security measure. All in all, at this point I would find it perfectly acceptable to add another means of making the satchel acquirable through in-game means. FFXI accounts don't fetch the prices they once did, making our accounts less attractive to would-be hackers.
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    If you want security, you should be able to just buy security, incentive doesn't work well when thats the only reason you buy it in the 1st place, and throw away the real item. Its like ordering something off a commercial because they offer a free toaster, and all you want is the toaster, sure it comes with this other thing you paid for, but you just throw that away because you only wanted your toaster.
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    you all do know the security token while it might seem a pain benefits you in more than one way
    1 it gives you an extra layer of security that while not perfect gives you a guarantee if you are hacked with it on you will get a roll back
    2 if you try to access the game from a different IP pool with it you wont be sent through hoops to get access again(they added something new that if you try to access the game from a different IP pool it will lock you out till you confirm your account, this happened to a friend)
    3. you get a Bonus item, that's right a bonus item: the Mog Satchel

    some of you are acting as though SE is being unreasonable with the token, as someone who was hacked and lost most of her in game valuables I certainly don't think so, SE did not have to add the token for us, they chose to, personally I'm glad they did, if you get one I suggest you keep it even if you think its a pain, I would have spent the money for it even if the satchel was not included with it just for the peace of mind
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    Last edited by wildsprite; 09-11-2012 at 10:18 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dohati View Post
    bought the token; DCed a birrion times; got sick of having to go get it every 15min; deactivated it; inventory space alone still worth the money.
    You got so many trojans and virusses on your PC that half the world's porn flows through your system, yet you blame the token for DCing you and REMOVE the only functional security you had?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsprite View Post
    2 if you try to access the game from a different IP pool with it you wont be sent through hoops to get access again(they added something new that if you try to access the game from a different IP pool it will lock you out till you confirm your account, this happened to a friend)
    I have never once experienced this problem.
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