Best mythic ws's?

[Zhronne]

Well, I Can tell you off the top of my head how much most of them will get any realistic use...

WHM - Restore MP, Obvious Situational Uses
BLM - ... Uh.
RDM - Used to be pretty good, Requisc/Chant Replace it in most situations.
THF - Garbage, Should never be used.
WAR - See THF
MNK - Good in Abyssea so long as you don't have Victory Smite.
PLD - Used to be awesome, Not so much now, Everything Resists it
DRK - Pretty Lame
BST - Pretty lame
BRD - Might be decent with 99 Carw.
SAM - Good for Darkness Skillchain?
RNG - Nope
NIN - Nope
DRG - Pretty decent, Stardiver > Outside as stated above.
SMN - I use it for Skillchains... Sekka > Garland > Shatter = Gravitation. Yup... Lowers DEF, But only 12.5%, Less than Shell Crusher, the WS we get... IDK, 40 levels earlier.
BLU - Nope.
COR - Nope
PUP - Epic.
DNC - Nope.
SCH - Nope.

Uhm, aren't you being a bit too negative?
Actually, tbh, what you described is most likely the real situation as of today.
But there have been days when the situation was different from this.
Back at level 75 some of those WS which are shit today used to be at least decent back then, if anything a good option to open/close SC.
For instance:

NIN: it sucks, but sometimes while soloing I used Blade: Kamu to stick its accuracy down effect, which stacks with Kurayami.

BST: Back then BSTs were hanging out with lots of CHR gear for Charm, and they had been screaming for a CHR mod based WS for ages. Primal Rend was just that. With lots of CHR gear and some mab one, Primal Rend was actually a decent WS. Of course, those were different times and today there just is no place for it I guess.

THF - In times where only a few players had Mandau and there were no Rudra's Storm and Extenterator, Mandalic Stab was a decent option if anything for SC purposes.

WAR - Used to be pretty nice in some setups?

SAM - Always sucked, if anything it sucked even more at 75 since the typical GKT was Hagun, with its really low base damage. Only use of Rana was to self SC Darkness, I think.

DNC - Uh... it's never been great, but it was "okaysh" at 75?

[Karbuncle]

P.S - Try not to take what i'm saying as Rude, Even though it sounds it, Its mostly brutal sarcasm I don't hate you.

Uhm, aren't you being a bit too negative?

Not even sorta Kinda. Most if not all Mythic WS's are Pretty useless. They all have some Quasi-Useful Additional Effect, But as far as any realistic uses, No, Very Few of them are any good, Most of them had some uses at 75, But as of now, They're pretty terrible. Since the OP Was looking for relevant, 2012 Information, i left out any uses they may have had back at 75, Since thats irrelevant.

NIN: it sucks, but sometimes while soloing I used Blade: Kamu to stick its accuracy down effect, which stacks with Kurayami.

The Accuracy Down is nice, But chances are wasting a WS on this for 300 DMG instead of doing a 3k~5k Hi or Shun will probably balance out in favor of Shun/Hi. Since Killing it faster is probably going to be better for your survivability.

BST: Back then BSTs were hanging out with lots of CHR gear for Charm, and they had been screaming for a CHR mod based WS for ages. Primal Rend was just that. With lots of CHR gear and some mab one, Primal Rend was actually a decent WS. Of course, those were different times and today there just is no place for it I guess.

Back in the day? Yah, But this isn't 2007 again, And I'm pretty sure he's asking for relevant information, not outdated information. Hell, Back at 75 I had a Primal Rend set, And it was lovely, Just not good today.

THF - In times where only a few players had Mandau and there were no Rudra's Storm and Extenterator, Mandalic Stab was a decent option if anything for SC purposes.

Which, Again, Is not pertinent today. Even back at 75, Shark Bite was generally better than Mandalic...

WAR - Used to be pretty nice in some setups?

I think we're seeing a patter now, "Used too", Even back then, It was really only good as a Mighty Strikes WS

SAM - Always sucked, if anything it sucked even more at 75 since the typical GKT was Hagun, with its really low base damage. Only use of Rana was to self SC Darkness, I think.

Its good for Setting up Self Darkness, But I think there are better WS combination that will do more damage, Even if its just getting you Frag or Grav.

DNC - Uh... it's never been great, but it was "okaysh" at 75?

IDK About it at 75 unfortunately, nor do i know much about DNC, But i think Evisc/Rudra's Skillchaining replaces the Phyr/Evisc Skillchain if you have Thwast. Otherwise, I think its still good for that Darkness thing.

[Zhronne]

I still use Pyrric from time to time because I don't have Twashtar. Haven't been using my DNC in like... urh 6 months, but I think I had a SC with Pyrric and Evisceration for Darkness?
And for Blade: Kamu I meant at level 75 lol. I don't think I have used it if not for giggles over the last years, altough I think I might still have a macro somewhere in my NIN book.

Aaaaah well, whatever, my previous post shows well I'm a man (a galka!) who lives in the past :'(

[Eri]

IDK About it at 75 unfortunately, nor do i know much about DNC, But i think Evisc/Rudra's Skillchaining replaces the Phyr/Evisc Skillchain if you have Thwast. Otherwise, I think its still good for that Darkness thing.

As Dnc Main is can say by 75 in Merrit Situation (Colibri) my Pyrics Hit around 1kish (Same as DE)

Now with 99 Spikes are 1.3kish Pyric (Spikes as in can hit way lower without capped Attack)
DE isnt compareable.

Also if you take Rudra's in account.

You can: Pyric > Eviscrevation > Dark > Rudras > Dark Lv2

So its far from Pointless. It will do as 'good' as Excentrator (lvl5)... bit lower maybe.... but with better SC possiblitys.

[Karbuncle]

Looks like.. Pyrrhic Kleos is...

28%STR, 30%DEX
1.4fTP over 4 hits (total - 4.4fTP)

Exent is..

100% AGI mod
1.0fTP over 4 hits (4.0fTP).

So, Exent will definitely win out on Average, But Pyrrhic is definitely more interesting than i Originally gave it credit for. So I'll happily bump that up to a "Useful" range. I talked to a very good DNC Friend who.. the conversation went like this.

"You're a good DNC Right?"
"Yah"
"Pyrrhic... Kleos is..."
"A kick ass Weaponskill"
"Oh?"
"Yah, Great SKillchain Properties, good Damage too"
"Better than Exent?"
"Dunno, Paper says no, But the Properties alone are what makes it nice".

Pretty much. So, yah.

[Modoru]

SP is great, ascetic's can be good, phyrric is okay for certain uses, rana... eh, drakes is still very relevant.

[MarkovChain]

The best is stringing pummel, with mythic it does 4k on average. DRG is 3.5 k. Ascetic's fury does 3k (it's better to use shijin in this case : 3.6k). Those are values from my mythic thread done on BG maths section.

[Siviard]

In my opinion, the best Mythic Weaponskills are.....

PUP: Stringing Pummel - Epic WS for PUP. Multi-hit and STR based. By far the best Mythic WS of them all.
DRG: Drakesbane - Good Multi-hit WS for DRG if you don't have Stardiver
DNC: Pyrrhic Kleos - Damage is just OK, but I like it because it opens Darkness SC with Evisceration
SAM: Tachi: Rana - Damage sucks, but opens Darkness SC with Tachi: Gekko
MNK: Ascetic's Fury - Good alternative if you don't have access to Victory Smite.

[nyheen]

Well, I Can tell you off the top of my head how much most of them will get any realistic use...

WHM - Restore MP, Obvious Situational Uses
BLM - ... Uh.
RDM - Used to be pretty good, Requisc/Chant Replace it in most situations.
THF - Garbage, Should never be used.
WAR - See THF
MNK - Good in Abyssea so long as you don't have Victory Smite.
PLD - Used to be awesome, Not so much now, Everything Resists it
DRK - Pretty Lame
BST - Pretty lame
BRD - Might be decent with 99 Carw.
SAM - Good for Darkness Skillchain?
RNG - Nope
NIN - Nope
DRG - Pretty decent, Stardiver > Outside as stated above.
SMN - I use it for Skillchains... Sekka > Garland > Shatter = Gravitation. Yup... Lowers DEF, But only 12.5%, Less than Shell Crusher, the WS we get... IDK, 40 levels earlier.
BLU - Nope.
COR - Nope
PUP - Epic.
DNC - Nope.
SCH - Nope.

hey now some of them WS still useful

BST - dmg may not be high but it one of the BEST amber ws on axe we got

COR - still got it use, wildfire wont be epic on something that resist fire.

PLD - still epic and got it use in pvp

the others you named is ok WS.

[Karbuncle]

hey now some of them WS still useful

BST - dmg may not be high but it one of the BEST amber ws on axe we got

COR - still got it use, wildfire wont be epic on something that resist fire.

PLD - still epic and got it use in pvp

the others you named is ok WS.

I forgot PVP Existed, But you got me there. I love me some Atonement in PVP.

Outside of that, IDK about COR and BST, i guess they are both good Amber WS, COR however might get better numbers from Last Stand if their sets good, Mob Depending... o-o