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    Player SharMarali's Avatar
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    The martello should default to 25% HP with clone wards at 10% instead of the martello defaulting to 1% with no clone wards. Doing the quests should continue to raise the HP of the martello and the clone wards. This would be enough of a fix that people would have time to kill more during Bastion without making it a "guaranteed win."

    The only real reason people typically participate in this activity is if they need resistance credits for leg pieces for jobs they just leveled or for OAT/DA weapon trials. It's frustrating when a big horde gets through and destroys the martello before you've had time to do much of anything.

    Any job can participate, really, it's just a question of knowing how to play the job and do as much as you can in a short time frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    You're doing it wrong...

    Seriously, almost any job can make out in Bastion quite easily. Sub any job with an AoE. Make sure you have RR up. Use the AoE, stonega/banisga 1 work especially well. Follow with an AoE sleep and stand back, leaving everything to the NPCs. Your low damage AoE should have the hate taken away very quickly, but you are on the books as "contributing to the death" of anythng you hit. You'll get good XP and points. Run through the NPCs, staying in their midst and trying to sleep, bind or whatever anything that resisted your AoE sleep so the NPCs are more likely to pull it off you. Hopefully your RR will never be used.

    Now, where you are partially right, they released Dominion Ops shortly after Bastion, so Bastion was overshadowed by the faster/higher/more leech friendly system in terms of XP/LP. Bastion still works just fine, and you'll need some points to get one of your AF3 pieces if you want it.
    Just because you *can* do it doesn't mean it isn't broken and stupid. You are the one who is doing it wrong: againg and letting the NPCs kill it is the slowest way I can think of to farm Credits. You get more points the more damage you do to any given target, and you get nothing at all if the things you touch don't die.

    I got enough credits for 20 pairs of legs and gladly stopped doing it. There are 2 things that make it soul destroyingly painful: Brainjack and the Martello starting with 1% HP. Brainjack effectively cuts melees from the list of jobs capable of efficiently farming Resistance Credits. The Martello's low HP makes sleep nuking from a good distance away the best way to farm Bastion.
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    In the year that I was gone, SCH went from a job no one wanted to a job that gets to use their 2-hour and go sit in the corner. I guess that's progress?

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    you were missing the point of the post apparently. It was that any job can succeed meaningfully at Bastion. It's simply not that hard. The hard part is knowing you could get points faster elsewhere and having the patience to stick with Bastion. It's a decent system, but since they upped the points in campaign, beseiged and of course Dom pages it is just totally overshadowed.
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    It was a decent system when more than 5 people did it at the same time.
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    Player hiko's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    you were missing the point of the post apparently. It was that any job can succeed meaningfully at Bastion. It's simply not that hard. The hard part is knowing you could get points faster elsewhere and having the patience to stick with Bastion. It's a decent system, but since they upped the points in campaign, beseiged and of course Dom pages it is just totally overshadowed.
    didn't know you can get bastion credit in campaign besieged dom pages....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    you were missing the point of the post apparently. It was that any job can succeed meaningfully at Bastion. It's simply not that hard. The hard part is knowing you could get points faster elsewhere and having the patience to stick with Bastion. It's a decent system, but since they upped the points in campaign, beseiged and of course Dom pages it is just totally overshadowed.
    To my knowledge nobody has ever done Bastion purely for the exp. And you can't get bastion credits anywhere else so....
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    Last edited by Calatilla; 08-30-2012 at 06:27 PM.

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    Honestly they don't have enough rewards for Bastion to be worth doing for more than AF3 Legs or the items for OAT/DA weapons. Xp is bad, no one uses the weapons, and its not worth the time for the slight bonus to curor buffs I think it gives if you do it in the zone. Overall its bad on rewards, thanks to its design you either have to AoE everything and attempt to solo it, or let the NPCs do the back bone of the work. Neither are impossible but both are kind of sad in my opinion on how they let this part slide. A fix to the problem would be to allow you to get points from NMs that die as they do with Dom Notes in Heroes areas, that wouldn't really fix Bastion, but it would at least let Bastion die and fall into the background where no one cares, or has to do it for anything meaningful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calatilla View Post
    To my knowledge nobody has ever done Bastion purely for the exp. And you can't get bastion credits anywhere else so....

    Do the supply runs (It's a fame 1 QUEST not a resistance operation) in vunkerl inlet (SP), choose the heavy sack. The NPC name starts with D and is right beside the Atma NPC near flux 1. You just walk to the bastion spot on the map at flux 0 with gravity effect. When you get to the end talk to the finish NPC, use flux repeat.

    Best jobs can increase movement and sneak. If you don't have apoc you can use a level 30 job with the in game barret that gives auto-reraise. <<< make sure you have some type of re-raise or a buddy to raise you.

    About 13 runs will get your pants and max zone fame. It gives 1000+ crurers, 70 bastion credits and possible feet seals each run. Well worth it.
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    Last edited by Sarick; 08-30-2012 at 11:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarick View Post
    Do the supply runs (It's a fame 1 QUEST not a resistance operation) in vunkerl inlet (SP), choose the heavy sack. The NPC name starts with D and is right beside the Atma NPC near flux 1. You just walk to the bastion spot on the map at flux 0 with gravity effect. When you get to the end talk to the finish NPC, use flux repeat.

    Best jobs can increase movement and sneak. If you don't have apoc you can use a level 30 job with the in game barret that gives auto-reraise. <<< make sure you have some type of re-raise or a buddy to raise you.

    About 13 runs will get your pants and max zone fame. It gives 1000+ crurers, 70 bastion credits and possible feet seals each run. Well worth it.
    but here's the problem, the people posting in this thread don't want to get anything done, they want to whine and have things done for them.

    saddening.
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    Pretty sure everyone in this thread wants to actually spend time killing monsters, rather than watching the monsters come in, then run away again 5 seconds later. Kind of different from what you're claiming they want.

    But why am I answering you anyway? It is pretty obvious that you're not showing your face in this thread to actually discuss or come with suggestions, but to belittle people and act as if you're better than everyone else.

    Saddening.
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    Last edited by Mirage; 08-31-2012 at 12:44 AM.

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