The Problem with Red Mage . . .

[Plasticleg]

wow that is the answer?
come in and post ~ trash mobs~ that i hate,

say what you think, why you think rdm melee is bad? what meleedmg is bad for you?

/sigh game or forum , other jobs say what rdm cann do or not
and when you have luck is a alljobs abyss pl

shit attack buffs, low selection of gear, and minimal bonuses with enspell with relic/almace combos.

have you been reading any of this thread?

[Lilia]

i say that a 2 time, rdm have not so much equip like blu or other melee, but have enough good items.
enspell 2 sux not enspell 1(ok not with relic) but the bonus is ok for all hits, and rdm hits quick and good DA

i stop that, think what you want think,

[saevel]

wow that is the answer?
come in and post ~ trash mobs~ that i hate,

say what you think, why you think rdm melee is bad? what meleedmg is bad for you?

/sigh game or forum , other jobs say what rdm cann do or not
and when you have luck is a alljobs abyss pl

He's trolling people hoping for a response and some attention. Just add him to your ignore list and they'll eventually go away. Only sane response.

[Plasticleg]

He's trolling people hoping for a response and some attention. Just add him to your ignore list and they'll eventually go away. Only sane response.

not trolling, just because someone disagrees strongly with your PoV makes not a troll.

trolling would be saying, "wait, rdm has sword skill?"

[Daniel_Hatcher]

not trolling, just because someone disagrees strongly with your PoV makes not a troll.

trolling would be saying, "wait, rdm has sword skill?"

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[3]extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[4] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[5] The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

[Plasticleg]

"off topic" making this whole detour (mostly me, you and saev) troll-arific.

reading comprehension :/

[Tamarsamar]

I liked the part where the thread got genuinely on-topic for a moment, when discussing gear deficiency as one of the flaws Red Mage has.

I would like to point out that earlier ManaKing made a quip about not using CDC for not having access to Athos's set, and take this chance to reiterate WHY?

[Demon6324236]

I liked the part where the thread got genuinely on-topic for a moment, when discussing gear deficiency as one of the flaws Red Mage has.

I would like to point out that earlier ManaKing made a quip about not using CDC for not having access to Athos's set, and take this chance to reiterate WHY?

Athos is a great set stacked with both DEX & Crit power. RDM's best, and to my knowledge, only gear for crits are really Nef & Rancor. This along with the poor DEX gear RDM generally gets is the main problem with CDC/Almace.

If you look, currently our arguably best head is Maat's Cap, body is either Ant, or Kudzu, hands are Alucinor Mitts, legs are Tumbler Trunks, and feet are Lithe Boots. Athos would smash most of this gear by far, and is much more useful. Athos Boots trump Lithe in every way, Athos Gloves are a Maat's Cap on your hands, and beat out Alucinor, Athos legs may lack the Attack of Tumbler but make up for it in the crit damage+, and the body has tons of DEX along with the crit damage, not to mention the set bonus effect of crit rate+ which we would get from it, it over all is a massive player.

In the end admittedly RDM lacks DEX gear & Crit gear, which is why Excalibur is much more on par with it than it would be with Athos. Much of the same can be said of Oce/Toci's but I have said that many times all over the place & don't want to re-explain how good Oce/Toci's would be both for TP & WSing on RDM. In the end they are very big players with CDC & Almace, that is the reason of why.



To put it in easier terms I suppose, and a much more simple way, RDM lacks the DEX/Crit gear to make CDC truely as useful as it could, just look at these 2 sets.

What RDM has - What RDM needs

[ManaKing]

You can burn your expansion gear into WS pieces for crit/damage, I have an Aug Light earring with Crit chance on it, and there is also Oneiros Knife for Crit Damage. (which no one will agree to use because it's not a STR Shikagar in your offhand)

That's why I say there isn't good gear for Almace. Not to mention no space in your inventory to fit if, if you actually have mage gear.

[Demon6324236]

I would think Brutal & Moon would beat crit earrings myself. The dagger isn't to good cause it lowers DPS to much to be worth using for WS alone. The augmented gear is probably not much of a step up in damage outside of events where Almace is already superior thanks to potency or atma effects.

When it comes down to it its just easy to say, RDM gets bad gear for CDC. That is not to say however that CDC is bad for RDM. The WS has its use in certain events, and outside of them as well. It really depends on what you gear up for and what you want to gear up for, RDM gear for CDC lacks far behind BLU, but on its own it stands up to KoR & Req with Excalibur, which makes it good enough to use, but not necessarily the be all end all.