The Problem with Red Mage . . .

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Me neither!!!! Other than the Q.Q'ing about gear rdm cant wear and irreversable me rdm hear me roar of the days past attitudes, rdm played well makes noise, rdm doing what a rdm shouldn't, yeah, your going to get sub par results.

Now your trolling is getting annoying and boring at the same time, bravo!

Can't you go elsewhere now.

[Nawesemo]

O.o who's trolling who here? I said what I said and you poke at me and not the fact that rdm can do just fine in the dd factory, and slap on the blinders and keep on insisting you got Skrewed..... Whatever, the good Rdms know what they can do given their limits and im sure your one of em, but what you want is about as silly as wars being upset they have no native haste.... And them eloquently asking for it and getting very defensive when they're told, that's a goofy idea. When do i get my l33T ONLY Pass I wanna be irrational and tell people to go away too.... ; ;

[Tamarsamar]

*sigh*

Guys, Internet 101: don't feed the trolls.

I seriously would've expected you guys to know better than to keep feeding for two pages continuously.

As thread OP, may I beseech the mods to not lock this thread, but to remove all of Nawesemo's quite destructive posts from it?

[Nawesemo]

*sigh, net 102 never disagree with anyone because after the in group feels threatened, they'll all throw down the troll card.. sound about right? Rdm again is geared more towards a mage support Hybrid, Blu its opposite, like a Whm to a Blm, a Sch to a dnc.... And bottom line, yall want to do what what your opposite does better than you. We all make these trades. but me saying that is "zomg troooooolllll" he dont agree DELETE HIM!!!!! Lol. Brillliant.

[tyrantsyn]

/facepalm A rdm wants to play blu... got it.

O.o who's trolling who here? I said what I said and you poke at me and not the fact that rdm can do just fine in the dd factory, and slap on the blinders and keep on insisting you got Skrewed..... Whatever, the good Rdms know what they can do given their limits and im sure your one of em, but what you want is about as silly as wars being upset they have no native haste.... And them eloquently asking for it and getting very defensive when they're told, that's a goofy idea. When do i get my l33T ONLY Pass I wanna be irrational and tell people to go away too.... ; ;

This is the attitude you came in here with lol. Which goes to show you know even less than what's going on in these forum's. You don't even understand when you've posted something that's going to get other's fired up and upset with you. Your clueless.

[Nawesemo]

Meh, w/e floats your boat, trolling me won't change how s.e. designed rdm, its pretty clear to me at least, some accept their a duck, others wandering around babbling about how they hate the goose, and the swans get more attention....but in the end strive to be the best duck they can.... En spell up, throw together the best you can and go put in work, its still not going to get rdm into front line dd slots on anything meaningful, rdm has its place, you exploit its strengths, or ..... Yeah, hate the goose. Either way, better gear isn't going to make you happier, its just going to enrage you more over how its not good enough, ......love your rdm, be a rdm, stop wanting to be a swan. Or not, my attitude ..... Lol if you only knew.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

This is the attitude you came in here with lol. Which goes to show you know even less than what's going on in these forum's. You don't even understand when you've posted something that's going to get other's fired up and upset with you. Your clueless.

Block them and save the hassle. Evidentally they don't know what a troll is, or are just playing (I hope, they're playing) dumb.

Also Report him for going off topic, it's against the rules after all, let the mods deal with him.

On topic:

I genuinely hope the new guy takes a good hard look at RDM like the majority of people both on the English and Japanese forums asked, instead of just looking at what they gave RDM and "thinking (incorrectly)" it's over-powered rather than the truth.

[Nawesemo]

That's funny, considering aside from your edit, I'm the only one continuously writing about rdm.

[Demon6324236]

A very simple way to tell you how this would not break balance. RDM getting some of BLU's gear for melee does not change the fact RDM has no native Dual Wield, meaning for good damage it needs to be /DNC or /NIN. BLU on the other hand can get a ton of traits from spells set, now this includes Dual Wield(upto III, same level as /NIN), Attack Bonus, Accuracy Bonus, Store TP, Double Attack, Triple Attack, Zanshin, and with all of this to choose from if they wish, they can also go with /WAR, giving Berserk, a massive boost to attack. RDM even with BLU's melee gear would be weaker than a BLU in traits and subjob options. It would not be unbalancing because of this, RDM's melee would still be weaker a BLU's melee would still be more open and stronger if set for it.

You keep saying we want to super DD, no, I want to be closer to a BLU in terms of damage with a sword. Do I want to play BLU? No, does it mean I want to play BLU? No, they are completely different jobs, changing RDM to have better melee gear more on par with BLU does not mean RDM = BLU or that I want to play BLU instead. I simply look at my gear, look at my abilities, and wish to see mine grow closer to the job that is like RDM, a hybrid. You keep saying that it will break balance or that RDM would be to powerful, but the truth is, we would just be stronger than now, and weaker than a BLU focusing on melee.

You know why people are saying your a troll? Not because people disagree with you, and want you gone. Its because every time you post you say something that comes across as "I saw your words, but didn't actually understand them, so instead I will just tell you its unbalanced and would be terrible if this were done!" you keep saying the same BS that we apparently want, but we say we don't, like DDing better than a WAR, which unless I missed something and RDM's DD power is right behind a WAR's, giving RDM some of BLU's gear isn't going to magically put RDM past WAR and make RDM the best DD in the game.

[Nawesemo]

Fair enough, I do think rdm melees fine, can do enough dmg with what is at their disposal, and that using blu as a notch to reach, or as comparison is just not good enough reason to add to an otherwise very adaptable job. The good things blu does have are seriously countered by their limited spell selection, seting them etc..... Rdm suffers none of that. We disagree. Np there. The gap was never there though. Rdm gear adding to a Rdms survivablity , damage in my opinion would put rdm on hhe Omg solo level they once had, and I think, yall just want it back.