The Problem with Red Mage . . .

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Neither does any of jealousy over Blu, you made your case for us to,read, and comment on, your just refusing to hear what were saying, ....group thinkish... You made up your mind, but to few that don't see eye to eye with you, "you just don't understand", I'm starting to think its you who don't... S.e strives for balance in an unbalancable world..... What you want pees all over alot of other jobs.... You want to kill stuff faster. Rdm doesn't do that.

On the contrary, people here are making SUGGESTIONS, such as adding RDM back onto the armour they used to get before they added BLU and broke their own lore.

You're coming in without reading anything anyone else is posting, and just seeing "BLU .... DD Must mean RDM wants to DD like a WAR......." Which is just plain and simply wrong.

RDM and BLU equipment wise should basically be the same, with BLU's spells setting them apart, this is not the case due to SE removing RDM from gear they used to have. What people are asking for is to be put back on said gear, which you'd know if you actually read the posts.

That said, you need clarity in your posts and far less random ........ that neither make sense, nor make your posting clearer only far harder to read.

[Nawesemo]

:/ rdm = fast cast, buku enfeebling, en spells, wide open spell list, bar spells, convert, temper, phalanx, refresh other party members phalanx other party members, moderate dd ability..

And you want it to hit stuff harder/faster..... /em rdm breaks.


I get it, I don't agree with it. No other job does those things above better, so I suggest using them better (save Whm bar spell lines)

[Calatilla]

:/ rdm = fast cast, buku enfeebling, en spells, wide open spell list, bar spells, convert, temper, phalanx, refresh other party members phalanx other party members, moderate dd ability..

And you want it to hit stuff harder/faster..... /em rdm breaks.


I get it, I don't agree with it. No other job does those things above better, so I sugest using them better (save Whm bar spell lines)

Everyone has fast cast, enfeebling is dead in the current content of the game, enspells do little to improve our melee output, we only get self cast barspells, every mage has convert if they sub /rdm not that its even needed, Temper is a start but it still doesn't fix anything, Phalanx, again self cast only unless /sch phalanx 2 isnt worth the merits. Who needs refresh these days? And jobs like blm, whm or sch would sub /rdm and have refresh anyway.

Everything you say RDM has, nobody needs so your argument is invalid.

Edit: Also, we don't have any spells nobody else has, other than temper. Which we can only cast on ourselves.

[Nawesemo]

Sooooo, you don't like to play rdm? It's not going to evvvver kill things like a (insert dd here) without insulting a lot of other jobs, phalanx 2, bio 3, dia 3 , slow 2, gain line....lol....w/e man. Use your tools better.

[Calatilla]

It's not that I don't like to play RDM, its more a case of why do I need to. Every other job can do what RDM can do better than RDM can. Enfeebling? whm, sch and blm can do just as good as RDM.

I already said Phalanx 2 was a waste of merits, bio III is ok if u wanna spend a week dot kiting something. Dia III is good in zergs but who invites a RDM to a zerg fest? slow 2 is good yes, if the mob isn't immune to it. Gain spells...self target spells as I said.

All these are great tools for soloing, which is pretty much all that RDM has left, so why not make solo'ing less of a chore by increasing RDM's melee output a bit.

I haven't used my RDM since just after abyssea release because nobody wants it. All RDM has left is it's melee, which is lacking. And you just keep repeating yourself "WE'RE NOT ASKING TO BE COMPARABLE TO A DD!" RDM melee needs a boost, nothing major just enough so it doesn't suck.

You say RDM would insult other jobs by increasing its DD slightly? Yet we're not insulted by every other mage class taking everything from us which has effectively killed anything the job may have had?

[Nawesemo]

For the glory of the empire!!!! So that the people killing the mob survive, have less trouble killing whatever mob, so the e peen dd can go,"zomg!!!". Just a little longer, there is little glory for rdm these days, but whose to say the jack of all trades should have ever.... Rdm is fine, does what it does well, and still "can" do the impossible, just will take as much as it used to..... It isn't a dd.

[Calatilla]

Does it well, trouble is, everyone else does it better. And technically all jobs are DD`s, just because you don't wield a weapon doesn't mean you can't deal damage. But that's beside the point. Enhancing RDM`s melee wont hurt any other jobs in the slightest and it's hardly game breaking so I don't see what the problem is.

[tyrantsyn]

Sooooo, you don't like to play rdm? It's not going to evvvver kill things like a (insert dd here) without insulting a lot of other jobs, phalanx 2, bio 3, dia 3 , slow 2, gain line....lol....w/e man. Use your tools better.

You just don't get it. All you see is ppl crying for more gear and fail to see what is actually being said. And in that you just betray how close minded you are to what's being discussed. It's obvious from the tone in your post that you need attention. And I'm sure you'll find plenty of that here, posting that way in the RDM thread's. Because most of the ppl here are rabid from neglect and doesn't take much to set them off. This is an age old debate, and so is your side of the story. Give it a rest and go make an anti thread if this idea drive's your passion so much. I'm sure it'll take off.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Wow is an understatement I think.

You just don't get it. All you see is ppl crying for more gear and fail to see what is actually being said. And in that you just betray how close minded you are to what's being discussed. It's obvious from the tone in your post that you need attention. And I'm sure you'll find plenty of that here, posting that way in the RDM thread's. Because most of the ppl here are rabid from neglect and doesn't take much to set them off. This is an age old debate, and so is your side of the story. Give it a rest and go make an anti thread if this idea drive's your passion so much. I'm sure it'll take off.

indeed, I don't mind but that kind of ignorance derails topics and ends up getting them ignored.

[Nawesemo]

Me neither!!!! Other than the Q.Q'ing about gear rdm cant wear and irreversable me rdm hear me roar of the days past attitudes, rdm played well makes noise, rdm doing what a rdm shouldn't, yeah, your going to get sub par results.