The Problem with Red Mage . . .

[tyrantsyn]

Block them and save the hassle. Evidentally they don't know what a troll is, or are just playing (I hope, they're playing) dumb.

Also Report him for going off topic, it's against the rules after all, let the mods deal with him.

On topic:

I genuinely hope the new guy takes a good hard look at RDM like the majority of people both on the English and Japanese forums asked, instead of just looking at what they gave RDM and "thinking (incorrectly)" it's over-powered rather than the truth.

Was the first thing I did actually.

Wow you guys are still on this and you a beating a guy up for 2 pages because he makes the point 'that just because BLU has something doesn't mean that RDM should have it too'.

If the guy is passionate about what he had to say, he could have worded it better. Starting anything with /facepalm is just bad idea, especially in the RDM thread's. A lot off ppl here feel ignore and neglected and don't need that. You and I both know even if his point is valid there's better way's of expressing it than how he did. Normally I leave these kind of thing's alone. This time tho I just felt like I needed to speak up.

[ManaKing]

If the guy is passionate about what he had to say, he could have worded it better. Starting anything with /facepalm is just bad idea, especially in the RDM thread's. A lot off ppl here feel ignore and neglected and don't need that. You and I both know even if his point is valid there's better way's of expressing it than how he did. Normally I leave these kind of thing's alone. This time tho I just felt like I needed to speak up.

Ok you win that one. Valid point and thumbs up.

I'm still on RDM 80% of the time, I still melee most of the time, and I take it to end game events that apparently we never get invites to. RDM has problems, but they aren't as cheap as some of the arguments that have been brought up here. Complaining about melee gear is a misdirection from the actual issues and I want everyone to know that.

[Scuro]

The problem with RDM.... is that they want to be DD's, when they should be back line, and because there are so many trying to push it, no original good ideas are coming out to secure its future as a USEFUL job. So in short, if your looking for the problem, its 95% of the posters in the RDM forums.

[SNK]

To me RDM is just a dead job. What with the stuff that's out there now, RDM is pretty much forever in a niche box.

[tyrantsyn]

My RDM is in moth ball's, I still love the job keep up on the gear and have fond memories of it. But abyssea kind of kill it for me. Which lead me to making a Ukon and switching over to WAR almost full time.

I see your point on melee and unlike the other guy you give a much better explanation about your thought's on the situation. And while I agree that when it come's to melee vs the bigger picture on RDM, there are more important thing's to get fix. But that's not what this thread is about. We have other thread's dedicated to those problem's and most here are as passionate about those issue's as they are about getting RDM on more melee gear. Misdirection? nah, it's just another aspect of the job ppl want attention too.

[ManaKing]

My point is we don't need to be BLU to be good. We can be RDM and be good and the gear issue isn't really an issue so long as they keep putting out gear that we can actually use.

This game isn't fair, but that's not a reason to believe you deserve something just because someone else gets it. You deserve it because it makes sense and makes your job actually better. A Thaumus Coat is cool and all, but I would rather get something that is actually tailored to RDM rather than any DD in the game.

I'd rather see a Haste body that increases Enspell damage or adds Affinity, which by association would increase enspell damage. How about an affect that makes Double Attacks increase Enspell damage significantly? How about Enpsells Augmenting Attack and Accuracy by the amount of damage your enspells are doing.

RDM doesn't need to steal BLU's thunder, it needs it's own thunder.

[tyrantsyn]

My point is we don't need to be BLU to be good. We can be RDM and be good and the gear issue isn't really an issue so long as they keep putting out gear that we can actually use.

This game isn't fair, but that's not a reason to believe you deserve something just because someone else gets it. You deserve it because it makes sense and makes your job actually better. A Thaumus Coat is cool and all, but I would rather get something that is actually tailored to RDM rather than any DD in the game.

I'd rather see a Haste body that increases Enspell damage or adds Affinity, which by association would increase enspell damage. How about an affect that makes Double Attacks increase Enspell damage significantly? How about Enpsells Augmenting Attack and Accuracy by the amount of damage your enspells are doing.

RDM doesn't need to steal BLU's thunder, it needs it's own thunder.

Just to be clear on my end I never said anything about wanting RDM to be like BLU on the front line. Also I very happy with what SE has been doing with adding RDM to gear lately. Brego and Duck set are really nice, and the body off Morta is sweet as well. If anything I would just like to say don't stop adding them to new gear in the future. And yes tailor made gear for RDM would be nice.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Just to be clear on my end I never said anything about wanting RDM to be like BLU on the front line. Also I very happy with what SE has been doing with adding RDM to gear lately. Brego and Duck set are really nice, and the body off Morta is sweet as well. If anything I would just like to say don't stop adding them to new gear in the future. And yes tailor made gear for RDM would be nice.

I would love a special piece for all jobs, like the BlackBelt is for MNK, Aegis/Ochain is for PLD and Gjallarhorn/Daurdabla is for BRD.

[Demon6324236]

I would love a special piece for all jobs, like the BlackBelt is for MNK, Aegis/Ochain is for PLD and Gjallarhorn/Daurdabla is for BRD.

Honestly I think all jobs should have a "Black Belt" not meaning as in the piece of gear itself, but their own version of it. A highly powerful piece of JSE that makes it stand out. I have always seen the Black Belt as something very awesome about MNK, and thought of it as kinda unfair that it is the only job in the game with a piece of gear like that.