Converting cruor to gil

[Mirage]

Cruor used to be a great ideas, you farm them, trade for items, sell those items, make gil. In essence you are farming gil, the same way you are farming stackable items to sell to NPC or AH. The difference is you get to amass cruor easily compared to the normal farming methods. And you can have multiple mules set this way and repeat. Just a more convenient efficient ways of making gil in vast amount. Which you would think will render gil somewhat useless other than for buying ancient currency, alexandrite, and all those magian trial weapon items. Still don't understand why this is a problem. If you want the do things faster, you are buying other people's time and effort to cut down your own. Basic economy.

It's not the same way you are farming stackable items to sell to NPC or AH. Other items that you can NPC are not distributed in greater quantities the more AFK people you have in your alliance. You won't get 18 times as many dark rings if you are in a full alliance of leechers. If you did, that would have been nerfed so hard that even typing the words "dark ring" in the game would automatically disconnect you. Furthermore, dark rings, in this example, are farmed specifically to make gil, except the two best ones you find, which you'll wear.

As for AH sales, that is even more different. There is this thing you might have heard of called supply and demand, and there's a lot of it going on at the AH. It leads to products that there is an overflood of not being valued as highly as items that are rare. I am sure you can agree that cruor isn't rare, and I'm pretty sure you can agree that it is not in high demand either, so why should you get a lot of money from it?

You're talking about buying other people's time and basic economy. However, whose time are you buying when it took them 0 time to get the gil? If someone is going to buy your time, you have to give up your time. you can't both sell your time to someone else, and at the same time spend that time on yourself. That's the same as having your cake and eating it too.

For now you can. How long until they nerf that?

Probably a long time, as you can't get dom notes afk. you have to be there and constantly talk to the npc. Unless there is another popular bot I don't know of.

If you want a gil source that is extremely unlikely to be nerfed, go for methods that don't rely on NPC selling.

[Luvbunny]

Gold boxes items should be able to be sold to NPC. The fact that they fetch nice prices is great. It will encouraged more people to explore abyssea dead zones. There are still TONS of ways to make gil that does not involve blinkering. I never really did it, and I am not poor or in need gil at all. Cruor did pretty much kill the need for gil, other than a source of funding for your relic and mythic. The nerf was in due indeed. The job nerf is not

[Zagen]

Gold boxes items should be able to be sold to NPC. The fact that they fetch nice prices is great. It will encouraged more people to explore abyssea dead zones. There are still TONS of ways to make gil that does not involve blinkering. I never really did it, and I am not poor or in need gil at all. Cruor did pretty much kill the need for gil, other than a source of funding for your relic and mythic. The nerf was in due indeed. The job nerf is not

Until SE adds a substantial gil sink that's appealing to everyone this won't happen.

Current in game example: Abyssea Konschtat gold boxes have the most valuable NPCable items in them (dark rings 33k~), yet everyone EXPs in Abyssea La Thaine or Misareaux instead.

Oh and by the way the moment SE adds that substantial gil sink as a consequence the amount of RMT activity will increase.

[Luvbunny]

They did add that event, it is called Legion, it failed spectacularly. So yeah, most people in the game don't really farm, considering gears are pretty much rare/ex now, and you get it free by doing your grinding on magian trials, up to a point where you then have to start buying the items needed to upgrade. The one that fetch high prices are the occasional accessories and some of those hard to obtain spells from BCNM etc...

[Zagen]

They did add that event, it is called Legion, it failed spectacularly. So yeah, most people in the game don't really farm, considering gears are pretty much rare/ex now, and you get it free by doing your grinding on magian trials, up to a point where you then have to start buying the items needed to upgrade. The one that fetch high prices are the occasional accessories and some of those hard to obtain spells from BCNM etc...

I said:

Until SE adds a substantial gil sink that's appealing to everyone this won't happen.

Note: Appealing in the line.

Legion even if it wasn't a nightmare of an event, wouldn't appeal to the masses.

I mean do you see those players who're still running around in aurore/teal/perle jumping for abjurations to make the gear from legion? Considering they haven't bothered to get Emp +1/2 items yet, I don't.

[Luvbunny]

They added one for the casual, it's called Meeble Burrow. Again, it is still failed to catch traction Bad game design = no one really care. They should let you do Meeble Burrow x 5 a day, and make it like Moblin Maze, so it does not consume everyone KI, if they are sticking with the once per 20 hour limit. This way, a party of 6 can go 6 times a day. A hardcore players can go as many times as they want and just keep joining fresh group or add new people in the rotation.

[Zagen]

They added one for the casual, it's called Meeble Burrow. Again, it is still failed to catch traction Bad game design = no one really care.

Burrows a poor example of a gil sink beyond the initial 2k you don't even have to spend gil to progress since you can use research marks.

[Demon6324236]

Thats the problem, people who want would fly through it...

[Demon6324236]

Not only is burrows a poor example of a gil sink beyond the initial 2k you don't even have to spend gil to progress since you can use research marks.

Look at the list of items you can buy.

[Zagen]

Look at the list of items you can buy.

Ok your point? You still don't have to spend gil. All gil does is give you a faster option once you've cleared the whole event once.