Converting cruor to gil

[Demon6324236]

Really before the blinker nerf, you could "brew" VW once a week... I mean through cruor>gil rates it was 1 cruor = 2.595 gil which meant 200k cruor (a brew) was 519k gil, and 519k gil is more than 500k which was needed for 5 Voidclusters, 5 make nearly any VWNM soloable easily, and so effortless that its basically no different than a brew, except your chances at a drop are laughable.

[Luvbunny]

Gold boxes items should be able to be sold to NPC. The fact that they fetch nice prices is great. It will encouraged more people to explore abyssea dead zones. There are still TONS of ways to make gil that does not involve blinkering. I never really did it, and I am not poor or in need gil at all. Cruor did pretty much kill the need for gil, other than a source of funding for your relic and mythic. The nerf was in due indeed. The job nerf is not

[Zagen]

Gold boxes items should be able to be sold to NPC. The fact that they fetch nice prices is great. It will encouraged more people to explore abyssea dead zones. There are still TONS of ways to make gil that does not involve blinkering. I never really did it, and I am not poor or in need gil at all. Cruor did pretty much kill the need for gil, other than a source of funding for your relic and mythic. The nerf was in due indeed. The job nerf is not

Until SE adds a substantial gil sink that's appealing to everyone this won't happen.

Current in game example: Abyssea Konschtat gold boxes have the most valuable NPCable items in them (dark rings 33k~), yet everyone EXPs in Abyssea La Thaine or Misareaux instead.

Oh and by the way the moment SE adds that substantial gil sink as a consequence the amount of RMT activity will increase.

[Luvbunny]

They did add that event, it is called Legion, it failed spectacularly. So yeah, most people in the game don't really farm, considering gears are pretty much rare/ex now, and you get it free by doing your grinding on magian trials, up to a point where you then have to start buying the items needed to upgrade. The one that fetch high prices are the occasional accessories and some of those hard to obtain spells from BCNM etc...

[Zagen]

They did add that event, it is called Legion, it failed spectacularly. So yeah, most people in the game don't really farm, considering gears are pretty much rare/ex now, and you get it free by doing your grinding on magian trials, up to a point where you then have to start buying the items needed to upgrade. The one that fetch high prices are the occasional accessories and some of those hard to obtain spells from BCNM etc...

I said:

Until SE adds a substantial gil sink that's appealing to everyone this won't happen.

Note: Appealing in the line.

Legion even if it wasn't a nightmare of an event, wouldn't appeal to the masses.

I mean do you see those players who're still running around in aurore/teal/perle jumping for abjurations to make the gear from legion? Considering they haven't bothered to get Emp +1/2 items yet, I don't.

[Luvbunny]

They added one for the casual, it's called Meeble Burrow. Again, it is still failed to catch traction Bad game design = no one really care. They should let you do Meeble Burrow x 5 a day, and make it like Moblin Maze, so it does not consume everyone KI, if they are sticking with the once per 20 hour limit. This way, a party of 6 can go 6 times a day. A hardcore players can go as many times as they want and just keep joining fresh group or add new people in the rotation.

[Zagen]

They added one for the casual, it's called Meeble Burrow. Again, it is still failed to catch traction Bad game design = no one really care.

Burrows a poor example of a gil sink beyond the initial 2k you don't even have to spend gil to progress since you can use research marks.

[Demon6324236]

Not only is burrows a poor example of a gil sink beyond the initial 2k you don't even have to spend gil to progress since you can use research marks.

Look at the list of items you can buy.

[Zagen]

Look at the list of items you can buy.

Ok your point? You still don't have to spend gil. All gil does is give you a faster option once you've cleared the whole event once.

[OmnysValefor]

I played years ago. I quit just before the moogle expansions came out. Kujata (my homeserver) was nearly dead and it just wasn't fun anymore.

I came back for a short time last year, and returned again this year.

Somehow, cruor improved the game's economy. I think the mega-rich just stopped caring about gil so much. Great AH gear last month is only about the same as great AH gear a few years ago. The difference is that plastrons and osodes and Aristocrat's coats were out of reach of many players' wealth. With cruor, anyone could be rich.

Years ago, many many people who had wealth either leeched it from an ls they ran/helped run, or they stole it, or they bought it. A few got lucky, and several people did earn it honest. There still was a lot of deceit involved.

With cruor, RMT wasn't needed. Valefor, and I'm sure every other server, had that aga leech parties most likely run by rmt and noone minded. It doesn't matter how much gil Aaaoa (Valefor's rmt shoutbot) had, very few people were buying it.

I'm not directly affected by the nerf at all. I hadn't moved off a million cruor in a month prior, and that wasn't where my gil was coming from. It was a nice fallback if I needed gil fast, but I wasn't using it. The only way it's reached me is that I notice more competition.

There were a few ways to nerf RMT that wouldn't have greatly affected players, including just banning these rmt faster. It's interesting that Aaaoa has changed his name 3 or four times in a few months but he still uses the same warrior and same RDM.