FFXI fixed!

[Sarick]

See everything I said in my last post.

yes. People who fail should not get the gear. That's the entire point. Don't tell me you missed that while arguing for the entire thread?

Cussing removed from original quote because it valuates the terms of service agreement I agreed to.

So it does come down to you being an evil little fart that doesn't want people to have what you can get or the fact they might not have the capability to get. Humm, I wonder where my baseless accusations come from. In your opinion people who might not have the skill sets don't deserve the same equipment you have even if they bust their asses trying for it. I don't see this as very moral for yourself or community.

These are elitist, uncaring, screw the little guy attitudes. It's exactly what I've been getting out of you this whole time. It's the same agenda the original poster wanted. You say you want things to be fixed, you can't fix them yourself. You can't even except that people you deem unworthy should still get the same gear if they work toward it! These are some of the reasons I've been calling you a fraud.

I had no issue with them adding king abjurations to Einherjar, because it was still a challenge to get to him and to fight him. What I don't want is a substantially easier way (of course one way will always be the easier one and the other the harder one, but as long as they're comparable in difficulty I still don't mind). I think skill should reward you in a unique way. And I also think the game should motivate people to play with skill. That's about the only things we disagree upon.

Motivation, doesn't include frustrating people because they're placed in full time hard mode. This isn't how a tier system works. Players also want to enjoy the game and be rewarded different ways. The extra back doors I'm asking for are there to motivate. I've already pointed out some of these back doors are partially there already. You even acknowledged that you wasn't aware of them when you slammed my argument. Looks like SE agrees with me because they added a few of them already.

I mentioned this above and needed to clarify it better.

"You can't even except that people you deem unworthy should still get the same gear if they work toward it!"

The type of work, is dependent on how the subject classifies the effort. You don't classify failure as a valid effort. In your views It's a pure screw you morality that's based on personal bias. It's telling everyone this "You fail! try harder it was a good learning experience but not worthy of reward!" I don't think you realize how bad that makes you look.

The people you are representing aren't the little guys like Joe pink. They represent your elitist views only not SE's or the communities. You want to secretly oppress them if they can't compete on your level. Obscuring this moral logic from the readers view won't protect you or our personal bias, It's just to obvious.

Good God, have some compassion and show some leeway in this department. This won't hurt anyone but the elitist jerks who want to lord over people with their leet gear as they prance around like something special. I don't see how or why you'd object unless you are really are rooting for the pigs who lord over people. If that's the case then you really are the fraud and hypocrite I see you as.

Please go away you make me sick thinking about it.

[Arcon]

Cussing removed from original quote because it valuates the terms of service agreement I agreed to.

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You are full of shit.

So it does come down to you being an evil little fart that doesn't want people to have what you can get or the fact they might not have the capability to get. Humm, I wonder where my baseless accusations come from. In your opinion people who might not have the skill sets don't deserve the same equipment you have even if they bust their asses trying for it. I don't see this as very moral for yourself or community.

What you just said was nothing but baseless accusations, same as always. All of it was wrong and does not reflect what I believe. The entirety of what I said was that people should get the same gear. The only difference between us is that you believe it should be just handed out to everyone, regardless of what they do, whereas I believe SE should try to motivate the people through whatever means to try and be better, and make the content actually by manageable everyone. I'm suggesting to SE to put an effort in to make their content (including their rewards) more accessible. Because right now they aren't.

I believe if you fail content, you should not get the same reward as someone who wins the content. Is that such a foreign concept to you? Because if it is, you're living an entirely different life in an entirely different world. And I'm willing to bet that you're the only one there. But hey, at least they have internet there.

The type of work, is dependent on how the subject classifies the effort. You don't classify failure as a valid effort. In your views It's a pure screw you morality that's based on personal bias. It's telling everyone this "You fail! try harder it was a good learning experience but not worthy of reward!" I don't think you realize how bad that makes you look.

I don't think you realize how bad stupid videos, pictures and names like "Joe pink" make you look. But as usual, you're posting bullshit that I never said or wanted. For example, I never once said that failure shouldn't give you anything. All I said was that failure shouldn't give you the same things as success. And here's the thing: if there were different difficulty tiers, even if you fail the hard content, you could win easier content. In my Nyzul example, if you didn't make it to F100, you could still get a F80 piece. How is that not rewarding?

Please go away you make me sick thinking about it.

Why would I care for you or what you feel? All you've done is stand in the way of proper discussion with your childish attempts and debate, insulting and ignorant. This is not your feelgood-place, this is a forum where everyone gets to discuss their opinions. If it makes you feel sick it's you who should leave.

[Sarick]

The only difference between us is that you believe it should be just handed out to everyone, regardless of what they do.

Really?

Why would I care for you or what you feel? All you've done is stand in the way of proper discussion with your childish attempts and debate, insulting and ignorant. This is not your feelgood-place, this is a forum where everyone gets to discuss their opinions. If it makes you feel sick it's you who should leave.

I'm sick by the oppressive views you represent, I feel good that I was able to expose them. You did great job hiding this but in realty I've done enough to expose a few things about your argument and what motivates it. Kick and scream all you want SE is already slowly changing the game to include alternative routes for hardcore content.

You've also retaliated in the same fashion.

By the way, the embedded links are comic relief, you clicked them why?

[Arcon]

I'm sick by the oppressive views you represent, I feel good that I was able to expose them. You did great job hiding this but in realty I've done enough to expose a few things about your argument and what motivates it. Kick and scream all you want SE is already slowly changing the game to include alternative routes for hardcore content.

Awesome.

By the way, the embedded links are comic relief, you clicked them why?

I didn't.

[Sarick]

Awesome.

So you're done arguing then.