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    The more I think about it, the more I like this idea:

    How about an event somewhat like VW or maybe like magian trials (or both).

    First make a set of generally crappy gear, maybe like hecatomb. You know, something where it has like slow +5 on every piece.

    Then make it so that the only way to get the +1 version of the new drops is by wearing the crappy hecatomb -1 for the entire fight.

    Make it so that the more people you have decked out in crappy gear, the better the odds of a drop or the more points received.

    Add other drops to the event that are unaffected by the crappy gear system.

    Make it so that the crappy gear also drops from this system.

    I'm sure there's about a million holes in that idea, but it's start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    The more I think about it, the more I like this idea:

    How about an event somewhat like VW or maybe like magian trials (or both).

    First make a set of generally crappy gear, maybe like hecatomb. You know, something where it has like slow +5 on every piece.

    Then make it so that the only way to get the +1 version of the new drops is by wearing the crappy hecatomb -1 for the entire fight.

    Make it so that the more people you have decked out in crappy gear, the better the odds of a drop or the more points received.

    Add other drops to the event that are unaffected by the crappy gear system.

    Make it so that the crappy gear also drops from this system.

    I'm sure there's about a million holes in that idea, but it's start.
    Heca isnt crappy its just always only had one use WS. Augmented heca +1 is still in some of the optimal gear sets. That aside yeah sure make the alliance start out gimp (sorta like salvage) force em to full time the gear and upon beating the event it removes a level of restrictions wash rinse repeat coupld be fun. Just as long as its not all about proc/temps or PD/Embrava/Zerg it'd be a step in the right direction. I'd like to see the fights get harder after each clear and as gear became less restricted. Could be fun I'd try it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragmar View Post
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    It's a shame I take FFXI so seriously that I feel inadequate enough that I want to obtain gear and clear content others cannot. I should take a step back and enjoy the game rather than expecting it to be hardcore for everyone.
    This is a reversed fixed message.
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    Last edited by Sarick; 08-13-2012 at 06:07 AM. Reason: text mistake
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    The more I think about it, the more I like this idea:

    How about an event somewhat like VW or maybe like magian trials (or both).

    First make a set of generally crappy gear, maybe like hecatomb. You know, something where it has like slow +5 on every piece.

    Then make it so that the only way to get the +1 version of the new drops is by wearing the crappy hecatomb -1 for the entire fight.

    Make it so that the more people you have decked out in crappy gear, the better the odds of a drop or the more points received.

    Add other drops to the event that are unaffected by the crappy gear system.

    Make it so that the crappy gear also drops from this system.

    I'm sure there's about a million holes in that idea, but it's start.
    Best way,

    1. Extreme High Quality +2 remove enemy weaknesses, add ten times the drop rate one heavy metal sack 100% on tier 4+ mobs only.

    2. Advanced High Quality have the weaknesses 20% success rate and quadruple the drop rate one 100% on a heavy metal plate on tier 4+ enemies only.

    3. Normal Quality Nothing here same normal drop rate.

    4. Too Weak, Low Quality. All weaknesses trigger 100% and last three times as long. No rewards other then win and maybe parcepts and atmasites.

    I bet most players would opt. for the NQ version. Let the people who are after wins select too weak versions.

    THERE EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE and the ELITES can be happy because they can get their shinny EMP's to 95 faster while feeling good about it.
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    Last edited by Sarick; 08-13-2012 at 05:53 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragmar View Post
    It's a shame you take FFXI so seriously that you feel inadequate that others can obtain gear and clear content you cannot. You should take a step back and enjoy the milestones you and your friends set out meet rather than expecting the game to be dumbed down. You really shouldnt be so envious of what others have or have done.
    Aww you should not have....spending some time formulating your feeble minded attempt at writing a reply. Good try though Princess Snowflake. Man, those words must seriously wounded your precious fragile egos lol, you actually able to wrote childish responds. Now go back prancing around in Port Jeuno and yelling about how great your accomplishments at killing xyz? Doesn't seem you enjoy the loss of not being able to feel "entitled" - now even the lowliest newbies can get a shot obtaining rather nice gears by having beginner's luck at Voidwatch.
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 08-13-2012 at 04:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Aww you should not have....spending some time formulating your feeble minded attempt at writing a reply. Good try though Princess Snowflake. Man, those words must seriously wounded your precious fragile egos lol, you actually able to wrote childish responds. Now go back prancing around in Port Jeuno and yelling about how great your accomplishments at killing xyz? Doesn't seem you enjoy the loss of not being able to feel "entitled" - now even the lowliest newbies can get a shot obtaining rather nice gears by having beginner's luck at Voidwatch.
    It's ok you've already admitted it isnt about elitests lording gear over you but about your own envy and feelings of inadequecy because others can do what you cannot. With how easy FFXI is, the fact that you cannot says everything anyone would ever need to know about you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarick View Post
    This is a reversed fixed message.
    Except I'm not asking for it to be hardcore for everyone I'm asking for SE to allow the player to select a difficulty starting with very easy content that everyone should be able to complete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragmar View Post
    It's ok you've already admitted it isnt about elitests lording gear over you but about your own envy and feelings of inadequecy because others can do what you cannot. With how easy FFXI is, the fact that you cannot says everything anyone would ever need to know about you.
    You know your arguing about how bad she is and she's just smiling back at the screen right now.

    You sound silly talking about the game being too easy because of abyssea when you haven't gotten all your abyssea gear. You really have no room to talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragmar View Post
    Except I'm not asking for it to be hardcore for everyone I'm asking for SE to allow the player to select a difficulty starting with very easy content that everyone should be able to complete.

    And you see that I created a post with an example how it could be done. You seem like a smart guy, you say listen to people who know what they're doing. Well, I think with some genius you can come up with a solution. Instead of ranting about how bad things are and how you want options give solutions that don't cause more imbalance.

    You want harder fights that give better items that make you LEET with stuff casuals CAN'T get, no that's not how it to do it. If you're going to make something hardcore make it enhance the drop rates with rewards everyone can already get.

    The solution is when it's made worth while for hardcore they get the same stuff just better quantity or drop rates. This is how the NEO dynamis was setup.

    If you agree with the tier rewards/difficulty system and aren't asking for special gear then I think a few people would stand up and say OK. The way you make it sound is players who play normal content should be excluded from special elite only gear. This is why people are against you.

    Things can be balanced by making items drop better on high quality versions without excluding normal quality versions access to these items. If you agree with this and, drop the whole I want a special Bucky beaver badge accessory because "I'm awesome sauce" a lot of people would probably support you.
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    Last edited by Sarick; 08-13-2012 at 01:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarick View Post
    You want harder fights that give better items that make you LEET with stuff casuals CAN'T get, no that's not how it to do it. If you're going to make something hardcore make it enhance the drop rates with rewards everyone can already get.

    The solution is when it's made worth while for hardcore they get the same stuff just better quantity or drop rates. This is how the NEO dynamis was setup.

    If you agree with the tier rewards/difficulty system and aren't asking for special gear then I think a few people would stand up and say OK. The way you make it sound is players who play normal content should be excluded from special elite only gear. This is why people are against you.
    Why? Why would people object to that. I honestly do not understand. Isn't it the entire purpose of games to be rewarded appropriately to how you perform? The better you are, the better the rewards should be. If someone is playing casually, and plays this game more for a social or lore-related aspect, they wouldn't care about the best of gear anyway.

    This is not in any way, shape or form about exclusion or feeling superior. Everyone should be given the chance to obtain these items. But they should be required to play well for it.

    I honestly cannot comprehend how anyone would complain that people who aren't skilled in something should be rewarded the same as people who are. That sounds completely illogical to me.
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