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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    That's neither a good nor a bad example, it's an non-applicable example. It has nothing to do with what I requested.

    His "solution" gives me no incentive to play well if time isn't an issue for me, which happens to be the case. I play this game casually, I don't want everything right away. I couldn't care less if I got a relic in two months or four months. I still get to have what the best player has with zero effort on my part, only I have to wait longer. It still requires zero skill, only dedication.

    I want something that I can be proud of obtaining. None of what you or him said qualifies.
    If you want something you're proud of attaining then perhaps you should look into something of greater reward then pixels on a game. If you want a real reward invent something or do something that impacts the world for the greater good.

    Requesting special gear in a game to inflate ones ego doesn't boarder well on the game or in real life. If one desires special treatment perhaps it's not the social norm that has a problem. After all, You should care more about the community balance if you want to feel good about yourself.

    For the record dedication is just as good a recognition as doing something more efficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarick View Post
    If you want something you're proud of attaining then perhaps you should look into something of greater reward then pixels on a game. If you want a real reward invent something or do something that impacts the world for the greater good.
    Perhaps if you want fun and entertainment you should consider getting laid instead of wasting away on these forums? That's basically what you just said to me. And if you think that's a valid argument you need to go back to your preschool class.

    With this comment you've disqualified everything you've ever said on these forums, because merely by being here you've acknowledged you're wasting time that could be used to otherwise benefit society, hence you're stopping humanity's progress by posting this. What a douche!

    There's several kinds of games. Those that offer quick and easy entertainment ("Mario Party"), those that require effort and dedication but offer a unique gaming experience ("Final Fantasy") and those that ask a person to improve constantly and reward a player's skill ("Ninja Gaiden"). I named a few games that are archetypical for the respective categories. Note that I meant the Final Fantasy series, not this part in particular. FFXI was special in that it spanned across some of those categories. In ye olden days FFXI was almost exclusively effort/dedication focused, with a little skill involved and almost no quick and easy entertainment. After Abyssea came out it made a drastic change away from its usual pattern and laid out almost exclusively in Mario Party sector. And the skill part it used to require for certain events (like JoL, Odin, Kirin, etc.) is what some people, including me, miss. That's why we suggest the things we do. Right now I'm not rewarded for playing FFXI. I mainly play it because of the LS people and because I like helping them out. I don't look forward to the actual "playing" anymore, except for Legion and Einherjar.

    You telling everyone to focus on one kind of gameplay only and that we should be happy with it, and if we aren't we magically fail at real life suggests that you have the argumentative capacity of a three year old who cries if things don't go his way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarick View Post
    Requesting special gear in a game to inflate ones ego doesn't boarder well on the game or in real life. If one desires special treatment perhaps it's not the social norm that has a problem. After all, You should care more about the community balance if you want to feel good about yourself.
    I only assume this was directed at me because you quoted me, because otherwise it makes absolutely no sense. I just told you that's precisely not what I care about. I don't care at all how others perceive me. I idle in a red subligar. And not an elite subligar either. I want this game to test my skills, nothing more. And nothing in the game currently does that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarick View Post
    For the record dedication is just as good a recognition as doing something more efficient.
    How come? That makes absolutely zero sense. I've rarely met anyone so shallow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Perhaps if you want fun and entertainment you should consider getting laid instead of wasting away on these forums? That's basically what you just said to me. And if you think that's a valid argument you need to go back to your preschool class.

    With this comment you've disqualified everything you've ever said on these forums, because merely by being here you've acknowledged you're wasting time that could be used to otherwise benefit society, hence you're stopping humanity's progress by posting this. What a douche!

    How come? That makes absolutely zero sense. I've rarely met anyone so shallow.
    Excuse yourself, I'm not the one banging my head on the wall making statements that I'm better or bored with the game. Did this somehow hurt the chances of inflating someones ego? Look at the likes on the original post and the 3rd post likes. This clearly shows that a large percentage of players reading disagree with those asking for special treatment. You can cut me down all you want but I'm seeing beyond the the delusions of grandger coming from your side of the field.

    As for disqualifying me and my arguments I can say this.

    I'm just perusing an equality interest and pointing out the flaws I'm seeing here. I'm not wasting time. The solutions I gave would benefit the community, hence you're stopping humanity's progress by posting your retorts. Who's the one being a douche? The one trying to move the games progress in the right direction or the player calling for special treatment?

    If you can't handle this then it's not my problem I gave solutions but you still ask for more. Why don't you admit how shallow it is to want entitlement that does nothing more then help you mess yourself with inflated ego. If you can't have fun with the rewards you've been given because it doesn't make you feel special that isn't an issue with the game.

    Requesting special gear in a game to inflate ones ego doesn't boarder well on the game or in real life. If one desires special treatment perhaps it's not the social norm that has a problem. After all, You should care more about the community balance if you want to feel good about yourself.
    No this wasn't totally directed at you Arcon, my apologies, clearly you should realize by defending him you've mirrored his reasoning and overall agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    ... A lot.
    I just don't understand. Why would a person who just wants more challenge and a fitting reward for besting said challenge, want the reward for said challenge to be something (Stronger gear) that makes every future event less challenging?

    Why not some piece of gear that is the same stats as the one the general public can obtain, but different color / shape, to show that you are a bad ass? Why does it have to make things easier for you (have higher stats / effects)? I mean if you truly care about the challenge, then having a different model to show your accomplishment should be fine right?
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