FFXI fixed!

[vienne]

I'm not an idiot, she just started posting recently, In your LS and same nation area. As for not dealing with criticism you speak from experience. I used to have some respect for you Arcon but after this topic you threw all that out the window.

This is the last thing I'm posting in this thread and please if any mod reads this, just lock it. We'll agree to disagree. some people want challenging content others want to turn this game into cuddlebearland where everyone gets the same lollypop.
But please you're being paranoid and you may apologise how much you want you're being very insulting towards me and towards arcon saying that he asks people to post for him. If it makes you feel any better we had a good laugh in the ls with your accusation of me being Arc's mule. I hope you'll remember me next time when I post in a thread and he does too and we have a different opinion.

[Shoko]

(I'm going to respond to this Arcon style in my own words.)

This is irrelevant those are made up numbers.

Can say it's made up numbers all you want, but the general population of players have at least one or two friends and does stuff with them, at the very least.

[Sarick]

Can say it's made up numbers all you want, but the general population of players have at least one or two friends and does stuff with them, at the very least.

You could've just said minority instead of giving a fake number and I wouldn't have disagreed.

The facts are they made statements in previous post that said they want this content available to everyone. If It's not in Joe Pinks pool then it'll only be in Jimmy leets pool. This by design is constrictive and represents two separate minority groups.

Both Jimmy Leet and Joe Pink are minorities. You can't balance things to be fair for everyone if one side gets special statistically superior equipment that the other can't possibly get.

Jimmy leet (Minority)

Jack Normal (Majority) << This guy is the one that the game should be designed around.

Joe Pink (Minority)

I hope you see what I'm trying to imply here. If you don't get it I'll explain in a later post.

[Rohelius]

You all fail because you play this antique...

Some people still find 1985 Mario on NES hard some find it easy to beat in 4min. i would never brag about beating any old tittle like you guys do, its quite funny lol

[Demon6324236]

You all fail because you play this antique...

Some people still find 1985 Mario on NES hard some find it easy to beat in 4min. i would never brag about beating any old tittle like you guys do, its quite funny lol

Slight difference, Mario doesn't get updated with new content on a monthly basis and have armys of people playing it together.

[Sarick]

I understand everything, just read it all most of it I don't feel like responding to. I did Think of a few things.

You mentioned evidence again.

Let's recap.

Baseless accusations.

I wouldn't feel the need to say these things without some merit. The readers who've read most of the topic can ascertain their own opinions based around the content in it. If you feel threatened about this then you can plea the filth otherwise don't set yourself up for it.

Doesn't know the content

You must not be up to date or don't read about updates. If you win a VW and a leet item drops that you already have you can accept it as a partial item that can be sold and later re-assembled. Anyone can get this item without fighting the enemy 100's of times if they have the clears. They can just choose to buy the parts.

Hardcore content.

Harder content that people can't win, I think I already explained SE's shortcomings here when creating difficulty tiers. Only a minority would have access the others would hate the content and choose to avoid it. I can't stress this enough if you read up on what the community says you'll see this is standard knowledge.

So I'm Liar?

You said this.

It should be in everyone's pool. And I already said that I don't particularly mind that either, but that that's not a solution, because it does not address our problem. Trophy items are just for showing off, and I don't care for that (despite what you like to proclaim).

Then followed up with this.

You misunderstood what I meant, although I admit my wording was ambiguous. I forgot we were talking about the OP's idea and was talking about skill requirements in general. What I meant was that the elite pool should also be accessible to casual players, not that every reward should drop off every difficulty level. As in, every casual should be able to work up to that and be able to clear it with practice and patience.

Finially ending with this.

We don't agree, and I don't think you understood what I meant. You're suggesting:
Tier 1: 10% drop rate of desired item (noobs go here)
Tier 2: 50% drop rate of desired item (made for average people)
Tier 3: 100% drop rate of desired item (made for the elitist scum)

What I'm suggesting is the following:
Tier 1: 100% drop rate of LQ item (requires attendance)
Tier 2: 100% drop rate of NQ item (requires patience and strategy)
Tier 3: 100% drop rate of HQ item (requires preparation, coordination and effort)

No, you said it was ambiguous then followed up with something completely opposite of the definition for "everyone." The word everyone isn't an ambiguous term. It's not left up to interpretation. You see where the first quote says everyone. The second part excuses everything that you said then the last part puts the HQ item in only one tier?

It's right there in front of you are con!

The person who doesn't know the subject history.

Sorry, If you want to argue with me about opinions, relevance or past post you need to know the subject matter/material. Even if I lack grammar skills (I've openly admitted this so no foul here). If you can't keep up with the topic then find someone who can for you like Vinnie.

On a final note I still don't see anything other then a training wheel approach. You think this will teach people to be better? I don't see this doing any good if you give out items of lower tier so Jimmy leet can lord over others. I also recognize that you still want Jimmy Leet items to be given to the hardcore only group without compromise.

This is a major turn off for your argument. I thought you said everyone and was about to call it quits then you came back on and posted something opposite. Luckly I checked back.

[Plasticleg]

this page is like a tale of two cities. could you guys duke it out somewhere where someone will care?

[Sarick]

this page is like a tale of two cities. could you guys duke it out somewhere where someone will care?

Kudos for pointing this out. Hits like button.

Oh, and your name made me laugh when I read it.

[Arcon]

Doesn't know the content

You must not be up to date or don't read about updates. If you win a VW and a leet item drops that you already have you can accept it as a partial item that can be sold and later re-assembled. Anyone can get this item without fighting the enemy 100's of times if they have the clears. They can just choose to buy the parts.

I'm very well aware of this, only your poor choice of words did not make it apparent that that's what you meant. No idea how it relates to anything at all, though.

Hardcore content.

Harder content that people can't win, I think I already explained SE's shortcomings here when creating difficulty tiers. Only a minority would have access the others would hate the content and choose to avoid it. I can't stress this enough if you read up on what the community says you'll see this is standard knowledge.

I know it very well, I don't need to read anything. I even said that myself in this very thread. I do play the game, just so you know. If SE already made it perfectly, there would be no reason to suggest it. That's why these forums are here for. And as I said before, if they failed at it before, should they just give up on it and dumb everything down until no one fails that content anymore?

So I'm Liar?

No, you said it was ambiguous then followed up with something completely opposite of the definition for "everyone." The word everyone isn't an ambiguous term. It's not left up to interpretation.

See my explanation above. You are a liar.

this page is like a tale of two cities. could you guys duke it out somewhere where someone will care?

While it's gotten a bit personal at times, I never felt like it was off-topic. Did you? Why should we go somewhere else?

[Sarick]

I'm very well aware of this, only your poor choice of words did not make it apparent that that's what you meant. No idea how it relates to anything at all, though.


See my explanation above. You are a liar.

You need to edit, I updated my previous post to give evidence.