Will there be camps in the new expansion?

[tyrantsyn]

I hate to think of a FF world that lack giant critter's didn't pop up from time to time. There is some awesome about being along traveling threw a zone and than sudden a 500 ton Wrym appears. Don't get me wrong "I don't want old world HNM's."

Perhaps some new system could be place in like a quest. Where you would talk to a npc in town. And than some where random in a zone your monster would pop. Alliance's flag for the quest could than all branch out searching for it. And only those player's that are flag could lay claim to it.

IDK if the whole searching thing would bring back the nostalgia of the HNM hunt. But the idea behind this would allow all players to get a chance at loot and drops. And add a bit of adventure by searching the mob out.

[FrankReynolds]

I'm sure someone already mentioned it, but the HNM doesn't have to drop loot. If your looking for world spawns that surprise you, or block a path or something forcing players to team up and beat the baddy, that's fine. That's fun even. But using them as a means to distribute really good gear, even 1 single piece of good gear, is a bad idea.

In the case of adding the same gear to some other event like einherjar: That still poses several issues. Finding a linkshell that does certain events on your schedule can be just as hard as getting an HNM to pop during said window. Not only that, but it still awards the guy who just happens to play during the right time of day with a 100% higher chance of getting the gear since camping the HNM does not exclude you from also doing einherjar. As a matter of fact, many shells pool DKP, so being on and available during the spawn window will award people points that get them to the top of the einherjar list as well.

[saevel]

Hell no.

What the heck, are you guys taking turns trolling the forums. One gets shot down only to have another one turn up a few days / weeks later.

To answer the OP, HELL NO. King's were never engaging, fun or otherwise good content. World spawn NM's are BAD, and every successful MMO has moved beyond them. They allow only a select few to have paid money for "magic pixie dust" so that they can claim the NM. Everyone else on the SERVER is then screwed unless they also pay for that magic pixie dust. Then it becomes a game of who paid the most for the most powerful magic pixie dust.

As someone said, if you want the "HNM" experience, unplug your keyboard in front of Fafnir's ??? in DA. Wait a few hours, plug it back in, then have someone else pop and kill the dragon while you stand there hoping they wipe.

And do all this at 4am when you have to work the next day. Or call your friends / wife / gf / significant other and tell them you have to cancel your date / engagement cause your LS needs you during that window.

Yeah F*CK that noise.

[saevel]

You see a majority of players don't want HNMs. I see a full third of players do want them, more than enough for SE to implement them with desired drops. When your play window closes, it's opening for someone else.

And your imagining things. Those people are only in your head, your probably talking to them.

I'd peg it at less then 2~5% of this games population desires world spawned HNM. And most of those only desire it so that they have some sort of status symbol they can show up in town.

[Eric]

And your imagining things. Those people are only in your head, your probably talking to them.

I'd peg it at less then 2~5% of this games population desires world spawned HNM. And most of those only desire it so that they have some sort of status symbol they can show up in town.

As much as I disagree with Aarahs, you can't go around telling someone that their statistics are wrong and then make up some statistics without giving any evidence and then expect to be taken seriously.

[vienne]

There should be content for everyone, if people want to camp an hnm (and they enjoy doing that) or w/e let them, it doesnt bother me and if it drops übergear which is way better than mine then let them have it since they invested alot more time in it. doesnt mean because most cant play 24/7 that content like this shouldnt exist, minorities should be taken into consideration too. Also not that many people make use of the forum so its kinda hard to tell what % is for and how many are against... maybe SE should organise a playerpoll like they have on xiv to determine what direction to go with the new expansion.

[FrankReynolds]

As much as I disagree with Aarahs, you can't go around telling someone that their statistics are wrong and then make up some statistics without giving any evidence and then expect to be taken seriously.

Here's a fact: There are enough people logged on my server to form about 100 alliances right now. If all 100 alliances take turns fighting an HNM that spawns the HQ version once every 3 days, and we all take turns (meaning no claim bots or other shells even show up for the pop except the one whose turn it is) , we will get to fight it about once per year.

That's assuming a Utopian FFXI player base, who all share content equally because they are all mature, respectful, caring, self sacrificing individuals.

[Vivik]

Thanks but no thanks.

[Sarick]

Sorry Tukutu, you've entered the realm of "If it existed before 2010, you can forget about it, because nobody wants it!"

I beg to differ here: Oh boy check out the 200+ Likes!

Anyhow, I agree with your suggestion.

THAT link is for Final Fantasy 14!!

If you want to play FF14 there's the door. Don't say this is people voting for Final Fantasy 11. Why don't I link to a WOW page that shows it's subscriber base and then say SEE, I beg to differ with you people want easy mode.

See how easy it is to skew results when you use different services?

[Camiie]

There should be content for everyone,

They shouldn't be worrying about appealing to niche groups when they have limited manpower and resources. They should be trying to cater each piece of content to as large a group as possible.