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[Vat]

Hi there,

I have been playing this game on and off. The one job that i like is smn. But I do have questions. So, I thought I would post my question here.

Has there been, or has anyone been able to do a break down of avatar stats? passive trates that they have (e.i Craby auto-regen at level 25).

There is a noticeable difference in dmg from carby and any of the rest of the avatars. Does avatars have stats boosted to that aligned element? (e.i Ifrit has higher str?)

BST pets have trates, and as demostraghted, carby gains a trate at level 25. What other trates do the avatars exibit?

Comments, thoughts and speculation is all welcome

[Luvbunny]

Check wiki, each avatar has their own uniqueness - example Garuda strong vs wind and earth elemental based attack, will resist petrify easily... Hence if you look at the summoner compendium I created, certain avatar is used because of their passive traits to ensure win.

[Arcon]

Check wiki, each avatar has their own uniqueness - example Garuda strong vs wind and earth elemental based attack, will resist petrify easily... Hence if you look at the summoner compendium I created, certain avatar is used because of their passive traits to ensure win.

Can I get a link to that? I would also like to see some further info. Aside from elemental affinities I don't know of any avatar traits (which I attribute to my lack of research in that area, not to the lack of information).

[Luvbunny]

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Garuda
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ramuh
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ifrit
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Titan
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Shiva
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Leviathan
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Fenrir
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Diabolos

[Mathieu]

There doesn't seem to be a lot of research in the area. Most likely because for years, the actual summons were considered basically useless outside a few blood pacts and Summoner was just a healer with a large MP pool and weaker spells.

I don't think they specifically have attributes bonuses towards their aligned stat, but they do have unique attributes. There probably is some correlation between them, but I'm not sure if there is an intentional one actually based on the element rather than just the base stats for the avatar. Carbuncle does seem to have lower than normal attributes, but that is most likely due to him being the easiest avatar to get and having the lowest base perturbation cost.

[Vat]

We hen fight primes, we normally fight on their weakday.

So in the same vain, our avatars should also have the same corolation. But we have no idea how the day effects the avatar we summon.

Come to that, we dont know if weather or double weather effects them too.

[Arcon]

We hen fight primes, we normally fight on their weakday.

So in the same vain, our avatars should also have the same corolation. But we have no idea how the day effects the avatar we summon.

Come to that, we dont know if weather or double weather effects them too.

That's simply because of the elemental day/weather bonus. Elemental spells and abilities gain damage and possibly accuracy boosts with matching day. This applies to everything, including the spells our avatars use (like Wind Blade, for example).

[Mokeil]

There's actually been a pretty good deal of testing on avatars over on the Allakhazam forums over the years. Here's some of the more recent tests. All credit goes to kegsay for his awesome dedication to finding these things out for us.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...24050111674199
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...&num=10&page=1
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...&num=38&page=1
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...&num=24&page=1

Let's see if I can remember some of the other things that have come up... (I may be remembering some of these things wrong, so please feel free to correct me.)

Essentially, all of the celestial avatars are Black Mages; good ole Carby is a White Mage. They have Job Traits appropriate to their jobs. For example, Carby gets his Auto-Regen exactly at 25, the same level a White Mage does.

The avatars, while undeniably having very hefty individualized elemental resistances, all have identical physical stats (Str, Dex, etc) This means that Ifrit does not have higher Str than the others, that Shiva does not hav higher Int than the others, and so on. Carbuncle does less damage than the others because of the way his damage is calculated (which is covered in the first link I provided).

All of the avatars have the same attack delay, bar one. Fenrir actually has a lower delay than all the others. Garuda can even it out with her Hastega, however.

That's simply because of the elemental day/weather bonus. Elemental spells and abilities gain damage and possibly accuracy boosts with matching day. This applies to everything, including the spells our avatars use (like Wind Blade, for example).

I don't think this one ever came up formally. So far as I can tell, (annecdotal evidence only, I know, but backed up by years of being a Summoner) this is the only effect that weather and day has on an avatar.

[Arcon]

Thanks for providing those links!

Let's see if I can remember some of the other things that have come up... (I may be remembering some of these things wrong, so please feel free to correct me.)

Essentially, all of the celestial avatars are Black Mages; good ole Carby is a White Mage. They have Job Traits appropriate to their jobs. For example, Carby gets his Auto-Regen exactly at 25, the same level a White Mage does.

This is quite correct. Elemental avatars also get Magic Attack Bonus just like regular BLM (+40 at Lv99), which further supports that theory.

[Babekeke]

Is Fenrir a BLM too? He hits a hell of a lot faster and harder than the others, leading me to believe that he is not a BLM. Or is it simply like the rest are holding ele staves, and he is wielding a relic/empy?