Aftermath Proc Rate

[Protey]

If the Aftermath could proc on both fists, every other one-hand Empyrean user would be up in arms.

Why should they be... cuz Martial Arts reduces our delay? Look at the delay on dagger, yet they can proc every time. We should be able to proc on both fists.

[Cream_Soda]

Why should they be... cuz Martial Arts reduces our delay? Look at the delay on dagger, yet they can proc every time. We should be able to proc on both fists.

Because you can't offhand another emp. So you'd only get the procs on a max of half of your swings, because single wielding is retarded.

[Protey]

Because you can't offhand another emp. So you'd only get the procs on a max of half of your swings, because single wielding is retarded.

single wielding isn't always retarded, it depends on what you're trying to do. For instance, a rdm going /war or /drk for amber light (in an area where it isn't feasible to use aeolian edge) or !! procs.

[Jesterking]

single wielding isn't always retarded, it depends on what you're trying to do. For instance, a rdm going /war or /drk for amber light (in an area where it isn't feasible to use aeolian edge) or !! procs.

Doing anything that is actually worth your time and single wielding is retarded. Nobody is going to fight anything single wielding, it'd be a waste of time when you could be doing damage.

[Protey]

Doing anything that is actually worth your time and single wielding is retarded. Nobody is going to fight anything single wielding, it'd be a waste of time when you could be doing damage.

i'll give you another example (though it's not empyrean, the argument has changed to single wielding), rdm solo doing aeolian edge farming, you'd use genbu's shield so you can maximize pdt.

[Cream_Soda]

i'll give you another example (though it's not empyrean, the argument has changed to single wielding), rdm solo doing aeolian edge farming, you'd use genbu's shield so you can maximize pdt.

Good thing Aeolian edge will give you aftermath, eh?

[Protey]

Prot, these are exceptions, not the rule.

If you're going for damage on mobs that matter (NMs and such) and aren't using a magical weaponskill to brew, and you CAN dual wield, you will be doing so. Its foolish not to.

yes i know, just making a point that it's not always retarded to single wield.

Good thing Aeolian edge will give you aftermath, eh?

hmm, can have aftermath or kill 20 mobs at once. I'll bet if you were to time it, a person would be able to kill those 20 mobs at once a lot faster than killing 20 mobs one at a time with aftermath.


o and cream.... that guy in your sig is so gay.

[Radio]

Damn that's some sound reasoning, but I have to honestly say it doesn't assuage my curiosity. It could be argued that we don't get any buffs from offhand weapons or grips but those things are hardly empyrean weapons I suppose. I look at our set bonus from AF3 and we aren't even able to proc our aftermath effect while kicking then a warrior crits for 1400 and I died a little on the inside. Well that's about as much I'm going to be able to type for now... Cream_Soda's signature is about as distracting as mine is. Thanks for adding to the discussion to all who gave some input.